Why at the very start of every new event within junctions on Network BBC ONE and BBC TWO do we get a tiny skip in the audio? The current BBC TWO symbol seems to make this problem more obvious. The split second the vision cuts to the symbol, there's a very slight glitch.
When watching on digital I loose sound for about a second at the start of each new event, so not just during idents, but also when regional news opts out the back of the national. When watching on analogue this never happens, so I just put it down to my box.
The problem that I'm aware of is evident on any cut to a new event - programme promotion, symbol, programme. BBC ONE and BBC TWO Nations seem to be fine.
There's no change in aspect ratio, so it's not that.
I've just been flicking through various BBC TWO Network junctions recorded over the last few days and can see this problem in every one of them.
As an aside - looking through material I've recorded from BBC ONE/TWO Nations and Network over the last couple of weeks, there are very few occurrences of a BBC THREE promo where the 'Threeeeeeee' vocal at the start has been broadcast in full. 9 times out of 10, it's 'eeeeeee'.
As an aside - looking through material I've recorded from BBC ONE/TWO Nations and Network over the last couple of weeks, there are very few occurrences of a BBC THREE promo where the 'Threeeeeeee' vocal at the start has been broadcast in full. 9 times out of 10, it's 'eeeeeee'.
Well isn't that peculiar -- I was just thinking the same thing a few minutes ago as that happened on BBC Wales on 1 analogue.
I really must've had nothing to think about at the time -- perhaps Neighbours does that to you?
When watching on digital I loose sound for about a second at the start of each new event, so not just during idents, but also when regional news opts out the back of the national. When watching on analogue this never happens, so I just put it down to my box.
I always used to lose audio momentarily at the same point in the BBC London News opening titles each lunchtime.
As an aside - looking through material I've recorded from BBC ONE/TWO Nations and Network over the last couple of weeks, there are very few occurrences of a BBC THREE promo where the 'Threeeeeeee' vocal at the start has been broadcast in full. 9 times out of 10, it's 'eeeeeee'.
Well isn't that peculiar -- I was just thinking the same thing a few minutes ago as that happened on BBC Wales on 1 analogue.
Yes - irritating isn't it. That's how the trail was fed from London. The "Thr" in "Three" takes such a fraction of a second that if you miss a frame it does sound like "eeeeeee!"...... either that or it was voiced by Peter Sallis
As an aside - looking through material I've recorded from BBC ONE/TWO Nations and Network over the last couple of weeks, there are very few occurrences of a BBC THREE promo where the 'Threeeeeeee' vocal at the start has been broadcast in full. 9 times out of 10, it's 'eeeeeee'.
Some of the BBC Three trails have been made with the audio very tight at the top. This is can be made worse be a slight delay between the automation running the trail and the mixer cutting to it. The mixer cuts to video and audio at the same time, unless the director specifies an audio lead, which should solve the problem.
Another one to look out for is the BBC i trail (the one with the vending machine) that has been made with the audio clipped at the top. Hence the song goes "ose the door..." instead of "Close the door..."
I've decided we'd be better off with fewer trails.
I have never understood the thinking behind playing the same three or four trails over and over and over and over in virtually every junction. The recent Christmas trails are a perfect example. In these days where the so called 'strategic thinkers' are supposedly pulling out all the stops to keep viewers with their channel, this seems a bit of a daft approach. An own goal you could say. This type of thing results in me reaching for the remote.
The repetition seems to be particularly bad on BBC TWO. If I saw those bloody Catherine Tate and Hancock trails one more time!! It's not even as if the trails are short!! Now the two favourites are 'Balderdash and Piffle' and 'The Goodies'.
I have never understood the thinking behind playing the same three or four trails over and over and over and over in virtually every junction. The recent Christmas trails are a perfect example. In these days where the so called 'strategic thinkers' are supposedly pulling out all the stops to keep viewers with their channel, this seems a bit of a daft approach. An own goal you could say. This type of thing results in me reaching for the remote.
Of particular infamy was the instance in 2002 where Chicken Run was trailed TWICE in the same junction...
Everything you say is correct. The more the BBC pushes a particular programme/service/whatever, the more they risk pushing people AWAY from what it is they're advertising. The current promotional MO goes against everything logical - take ECPs and OSNs for example. If you want people to stay on your channel, theoretically you'd leave telling them what's on next until the last possible moment. Telling people what's on as the credits roll might actually make people switch over, especially if they hate that particular programme.
But do broadcasters listen? No. Their razor-sharp PR men insist the majority of people like the way they do things and that people find ECPs, OSNs, whatever, useful. TV marketeers clearly don't think like we do.
Of particular infamy was the instance in 2002 where Chicken Run was trailed TWICE in the same junction...
Don't see what's so spectular about that, BBC Three quite often runs two identical trailers in one junction. Many times it looks as if they've only ever got three trailers for the whole night.
On a related if slightly off-topic note,BBC Three don't seem to know now what they want to do with their DOG - some nights its on everything going and other nights it isn't on at all over the same programming. Plus it doesn't seem to like going from programme to programme either.
