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Testing Now (June 2003)

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Jamez posted:
I REALLY hate HTV West posted:


Oh, by the way ... we recorded a "behind-the-scenes" show from the gallery a few weeks ago - not to dissimilar to the style of the Sky News gallery camera. Hopefully we'll stick it up on the PW site in the next few weeks (when we get chance!!) ... and we can all have an anorak at that!!


Hmmfpphh!!

I was never even allowed to take photos of the BBC Wales channel transmission suites. Wink


Hehe - well, this will be a bit of a treat for y'all then! It's even got all the talkback and stuff on it, so you can hear the director/NTA and all.
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The radio promos after EMT are rotated so each station gets an advert, for whoever asked. Also, they sometimes advertise the EMT website, Inside Out (which definately is an East Midlands version) or show national trailers. I don't think any programming is shared between East and West Midlands these days. The Midlands area is far too big for that.
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tvmercia Founding member
xtremeboat posted:
The radio promos after EMT are rotated so each station gets an advert, for whoever asked. Also, they sometimes advertise the EMT website, Inside Out (which definately is an East Midlands version) or show national trailers. I don't think any programming is shared between East and West Midlands these days. The Midlands area is far too big for that.

well being as john hess (bbc east mids political bod) is still appearing on the midlands version - i think pebble mill provide the politics show for both regions.

and a quick scoot around

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/midlands/

with a big feature about nottingham as the top story would back that theory up.
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cwathen Founding member
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I expect the "BBC ONE ##" naming convention for the test channels will change when they join the EPG - so that they make a bit more sense. (The current ## suffixes make sense to engineers in the BBC , and as these are not public tests it makes sense for them to use the most relevant naming systems for their purposes?)
I would hope that they will become "BBC1 ######" (not sure how many #s) to allow for "BBC1 West" etc. rather than wasting letters on the "ONE"

The problem is that the corporate mad BBC has decided that the first channel is called 'BBC ONE' and not 'BBC1' hence they will probably persevere with the 2 character regional names. We can only hope that they will start using region names in place of the location of the regional centre.
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cwathen posted:

The problem is that the corporate mad BBC has decided that the first channel is called 'BBC ONE' and not 'BBC1' hence they will probably persevere with the 2 character regional names. We can only hope that they will start using region names in place of the location of the regional centre.


Not sure what you mean by 'Corporate mad'.... the BBC is a corporation after all! I think you mean that they are branding mad which is only fair enough and what everyone else does.

You could go back to the old days when some bits of the beeb called it diffrent thngs: BBC1, 'one', BBC-1, BBC One or used diffrent, often ramdom logos
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cwathen Founding member
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Not sure what you mean by 'Corporate mad'.... the BBC is a corporation after all! I think you mean that they are branding mad which is only fair enough and what everyone else does.

You could go back to the old days when some bits of the beeb called it diffrent thngs: BBC1, 'one', BBC-1, BBC One or used diffrent, often ramdom logos

By 'corporate mad' I mean that they have decided that their first channel is called 'BBC ONE' and that is the only acceptable way of writing it. It makes perfect sense for the Sky EPG to have names like 'BBC1 West' listed. But I don't doubt for a minute that they would rather have 'BBC ONE WE' to save destroying their corporate image on something as insignificant as EPG labels. And don't tell me you honestly think the latter is better.
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I was getting more at the out of context use of the word 'Corporate'..... vastly overused on TV Forum!

How many characters does the EPG allow anyway? I suspect it'll be BBC ONE South, BBC ONE West and BBC ONE NW for the longer names
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Andrew Founding member
Larry Scutta posted:
I was getting more at the out of context use of the word 'Corporate'..... vastly overused on TV Forum!

How many characters does the EPG allow anyway? I suspect it'll be BBC ONE South, BBC ONE West and BBC ONE NW for the longer names


Will it fit "BBC ONE E Yorks & Lincs"??
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noggin Founding member
cwathen posted:
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I expect the "BBC ONE ##" naming convention for the test channels will change when they join the EPG - so that they make a bit more sense. (The current ## suffixes make sense to engineers in the BBC , and as these are not public tests it makes sense for them to use the most relevant naming systems for their purposes?)
I would hope that they will become "BBC1 ######" (not sure how many #s) to allow for "BBC1 West" etc. rather than wasting letters on the "ONE"

The problem is that the corporate mad BBC has decided that the first channel is called 'BBC ONE' and not 'BBC1' hence they will probably persevere with the 2 character regional names. We can only hope that they will start using region names in place of the location of the regional centre.


Err - I suggest you wait until the formal launch...

The current engineering tests are using the formal engineering routing designations - as one would expect for such tests - where the correct source routing and uplink is the most important thing to test - hence the use of the regional centre suffix (rather than the official region name). BBC regional centres all have 2 character designations (transmitters often have 3 - though not universally - CP being the obvious exception)

I VERY much doubt that the current channel names will be used for the public services - in the same way that most test services outside the EPG use different channel names to those used after formal EPG launch versions.

I think it VERY likely that "BBC1 ########" will be the formal EPG description - not "BBC ONE ##"....
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noggin Founding member
Andrew posted:
Larry Scutta posted:
I was getting more at the out of context use of the word 'Corporate'..... vastly overused on TV Forum!

How many characters does the EPG allow anyway? I suspect it'll be BBC ONE South, BBC ONE West and BBC ONE NW for the longer names


Will it fit "BBC ONE E Yorks & Lincs"??


ISTR that the EPG limit is 13 characters?
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Steve in Pudsey
They could upload the TV Logos font to all of the digiboxed, so they would get the [B] [B] [C] logo in just one character.... or maybe not Laughing
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cwathen Founding member
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I think it VERY likely that "BBC1 ########" will be the formal EPG description - not "BBC ONE ##"....

There is a precedent for two letter designations - the nations have them. There isn't 'BBC1 Wales' but 'BBC ONE Wa'. Ditto other nations. I realise they probably won't use the locations of the centres, but it wouldn't surprise me if they refuse to use 'BBC1' followed by a more descriptive region name instead of 'BBC ONE' followed by a 2 or 3 letter abbreviation.

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