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BBC One Continuity Now Pre-Recorded?

(February 2005)

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Adam
How long until the BBC start using the computer voice to do all the annos? Wink
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tvarksouthwest
Adam posted:
How long until the BBC start using the computer voice to do all the annos? Wink

I was thinking exactly the same!
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russnet Founding member
Adam posted:
How long until the BBC start using the computer voice to do all the annos? Wink


Mmh, I can see it now "From everybody here at Television Centre, my name is Steven Hawking and I wish you a very good night" Probably not word to word on how it use to be but then when was the last proper closedown? 8 years ago. Crikes!
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marksi
The TV Room posted:
marksi posted:
Everything is "computer originated", including live announcements!


<Activate Pedant Mode>

What?? Are you telling me that there's a fleet of cyborgs in the Broadcast Centre?!?!?

At the time of transmission, unless I'm mistaken, the voice of a live announcer originates with a human, whose vocal output is channelled through a computer.

Recorded announcements are stored as .wav files (or alternative file extension) and played out from a machine.

<Pedant Mode Deactivated>


The system has to be told there will be a live announcer and the audio is then routed accordingly.
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Nick Harvey Founding member
marksi posted:
The system has to be told there will be a live announcer and the audio is then routed accordingly.

Yes, so what you're saying is that if somebody programmes into the automation that the live event will be 21:49:30 to 21:49:59, when they should have programmed 21:59:30 to 21:59:59, then the announcer won't speak at 21:49:30, so won't be heard and when he DOES speak at 21:59:30, he still won't be heard because his mic won't be on.
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marksi
Nick Harvey posted:
marksi posted:
The system has to be told there will be a live announcer and the audio is then routed accordingly.

Yes, so what you're saying is that if somebody programmes into the automation that the live event will be 21:49:30 to 21:49:59, when they should have programmed 21:59:30 to 21:59:59, then the announcer won't speak at 21:49:30, so won't be heard and when he DOES speak at 21:59:30, he still won't be heard because his mic won't be on.


Can't say I know the exact details of it, we don't use the system in that way here.
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Big Brother Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
Adam posted:
How long until the BBC start using the computer voice to do all the annos? Wink

I was thinking exactly the same!


FirstScotrail have a more or less automated computer voice on some of their trains which announces where you are, where's next and all this other jargon. She's clearly been recorded before hand and the on-board computer must just fit all the words together but your don't even notice it.

"This is Dundee.... This train is for Aberdeen, calling at Carnoustie, Arbroath, Montrose, Stonehaven and.... Aberdeen..... The next stop is.... Carnoustie" around ten minutes later she dings again "We're now approaching... Carnoustie...... This is Carnoustie...."

I find it hilarious when the conducter does the same 5 seconds before she starts rofl. But really I know it's all pieced together but it's not noticeable.
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Adam
Big Brother posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Adam posted:
How long until the BBC start using the computer voice to do all the annos? Wink

I was thinking exactly the same!


FirstScotrail have a more or less automated computer voice on some of their trains which announces where you are, where's next and all this other jargon. She's clearly been recorded before hand and the on-board computer must just fit all the words together but your don't even notice it.

"This is Dundee.... This train is for Aberdeen, calling at Carnoustie, Arbroath, Montrose, Stonehaven and.... Aberdeen..... The next stop is.... Carnoustie" around ten minutes later she dings again "We're now approaching... Carnoustie...... This is Carnoustie...."

I find it hilarious when the conducter does the same 5 seconds before she starts rofl. But really I know it's all pieced together but it's not noticeable.


Actually what I meant is the "Speakable Items" sort of voice you get. On Windows this is called Microsoft SAM, and a quick look on OSX reveals that the voice engine is 'MacinTalk' my current voice is called "Agnes". Laughing
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scottishtv Founding member
Big Brother posted:
FirstScotrail have a more or less automated computer voice on some of their trains which announces where you are, where's next and all this other jargon. She's clearly been recorded before hand and the on-board computer must just fit all the words together but your don't even notice it.

"This is Dundee.... This train is for Aberdeen, calling at Carnoustie, Arbroath, Montrose, Stonehaven and.... Aberdeen..... The next stop is.... Carnoustie" around ten minutes later she dings again "We're now approaching... Carnoustie...... This is Carnoustie...."

I note that in 'First Insight' (the crappy newsletter) that they're introducing more 'audio visual' information systems on the rest of the fleet - even the older trains I think.

Anything's better than that awful obviously computer generated voice at Edinburgh Waverley - what was wrong with the soft-Scottish voiced pre-recorded woman? I can barely make out the new announcements, plus they've not configured it properly.

"Attention! Passengers should note the service from Somewhere is now expected at 1204. <pause><should have entered your train operating company name here but didn't bother> apologises for the late arrival of this service."

I don't like someone shouting "ATTENTION!" at me - especially when it's hardly announcing something life threatening. Also starting a sentence with "Apologises" instead of "Apologies" sounds much worse than it looks written down.... (Sorry - way off topic, but some things really annoy me!)
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p_c_u_k
Yeah it really isn't noticeable when the anno says: "This is Hamilton Central" when you're actually sitting in Glasgow....

Still, wakes you up in the morning when you've been sleeping for a bit.
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Dan Founding member
There was a breakdown on ITV1 this evening, between the regional news and the ITV news. The apology announcements didn't sound live.
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britbat
For those of you that seem to care whether or not BBC continuity is or isn't pre-recorded... why?

Not being rude or anything but can't find one single reason why I should care whether continuity is read by real person and played out later by a computer or read by real person live.

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