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BBC One: Christmas Ident discussion

(November 2008)

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AL
altrus
cylon6 posted:
nok32uk posted:

I seem to remember sting captures were released early last year and people got all excited.
Really? I think I missed all of those when they were leaked.

If BBC2 are going to repeat idents this year then they should show the Wallace & Gromit ident so that there is some consistency across both main channels. Very Happy


Consitency in branding! Don't make me laugh Laughing
SU
suziechan
no this is incredibly early delivering this far out of transmission...

i've known series start tx with half the episodes still in post!
GE
George12345
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JWxMR0e-L2A

old memories Very Happy
CY
cylon6
George12345 posted:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JWxMR0e-L2A

old memories Very Happy


I don't remember that coming back in 2001. Confused

BBC2 was in the computer generated/yellow era then wasn't it?
GE
George12345
cylon6 posted:
George12345 posted:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JWxMR0e-L2A

old memories Very Happy


I don't remember that coming back in 2001. Confused

BBC2 was in the computer generated/yellow era then wasn't it?


I think the guy done a mock on the ident just used the bland ident without the logo and used the 2001 logo
CY
cylon6
George12345 posted:


I think the guy done a mock on the ident just used the bland ident without the logo and used the 2001 logo


Oh I see. Going back to consistency I think I preferred it when BBC1 & BBC2 had that 1997 branding under the logo. The channels are all over the place now. BBC2 has a box on the bottom left, BBC4 has a box in the centre and BBC1 & BBC3 have no box at all. Seems a bit sloppy to me.
JO
Jonny
cylon6 posted:
George12345 posted:


I think the guy done a mock on the ident just used the bland ident without the logo and used the 2001 logo


Oh I see. Going back to consistency I think I preferred it when BBC1 & BBC2 had that 1997 branding under the logo. The channels are all over the place now. BBC2 has a box on the bottom left, BBC4 has a box in the centre and BBC1 & BBC3 have no box at all. Seems a bit sloppy to me.

Imagine how sloppy it would be if BBC Two had switched to a 2-BBC logo in October, as originally planned Shocked.

I'm all for seeing a bit of individuality in the logos but there has to be some degree of consistency. Whether this is in the position of the BBC logo, colours used or typography I don't know but at the moment BBC TV branding is all over the shop.

Take BBC One, it currently uses two logos: the one used in the idents, trails, etc. and the red box used online and in cross channel promotions. Aside from the fact that the very existence of two logos for one channel is ridiculous (who do they think they are, Tyne Tees? Wink) they can't even decide what they want the box logo to look like. We have a 2002 style box, a rounded edge box, another rounded edge box with different logo layout, the list goes on.

It all boils down to this: do the Beeb want to continue using the box logos or not? If the answer is yes, then they need to settle on one design and one design only and roll it out across all BBC TV channels. If the answer is no, then they must stop diluting channel's branding (like BBC One's) and issue channels currently using a box logo with new logos.

Until a decision is made, the sloppiness and inconsistency will continue.
CY
cylon6
I couldn't have said that any better myself. The issue with the boxes could be sorted out very easily. Just decide one way or the other.
PT
Put The Telly On
cylon6 posted:
nok32uk posted:

I seem to remember sting captures were released early last year and people got all excited.
Really? I think I missed all of those when they were leaked.


Well I don't know if it was last year (I've been on this forum for too many Christmases now!) but I seem to remember a shot was released and people were going "ooh this looks good if it's the new ident" and we were all disappointed in the end. Razz
RE
Reboot
I think there was some confusion last year about BBC 2 stings early on. I don't recall similar confusion with Penguins, though.
AL
altrus
nok32uk posted:
cylon6 posted:
nok32uk posted:

I seem to remember sting captures were released early last year and people got all excited.
Really? I think I missed all of those when they were leaked.


Well I don't know if it was last year (I've been on this forum for too many Christmases now!) but I seem to remember a shot was released and people were going "ooh this looks good if it's the new ident" and we were all disappointed in the end. Razz


Can I see that shot?
PC
Paul Clark
Quote:

Nice sting.

The 'red text on white' style should (I hope) get carried across to all the presentation, so that everything from the slides, to the trail endboards, to the Now / Next pointers, all compliment this style. It would be illogical to do otherwise.

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