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(December 2005)

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Wicko
r2ro posted:
To be honest I did like this year's Christmas ident and wasn't sick of it by the beginning of January though I wasn't disappointed to see it go. As for the rebrand, I was a little surprised that we didn't get a new ident so perhaps it will take place in the spring or summer where a new ident wouldn't be that beneficial all though an autumn rebrand does look the most likely. In regards to the earlier poster of the rebrand before a major television event (such as Dr Who), I think this is unlikely as there was nothing special for the return of the sci-fi show after some 15 years so I doubt they will do it just for a new series.


I think it is accurate to say that a rebrand will occur sometime in the future.
RD
Rob Del Monte
I have an idea to a relaunch.

I think that they should build up to this rebrand.

It will be really special because it will return the globe, and the '1'.

A caption showing '1997'. It will start off with a ten second trailer, of the '1' with arms, and the '2' with arms, dancing together, at the top of a cliff, or near a danger. then they do the sequence that makes the screen red in two halfs. The text just says "Coming soon".

For the next following teasers, the red screen just displays the digit '1'.

Next teaser, you see the '1' slipping, and falling down the cliff - or into the danger, and the '2' crying? It won't be grusome, more cartooney, for a family audience.

During the same period you see a cartoon 'BBC' marketing deparment shurgging, and setting up a 'Dancers Wanted Sign', and enflating a globe balloon.

Two weeks later you see the '1' twitching at the bottom of the cliff.

Another two weeks later, you see the '1' surfing on a 'clock-surfboard' on the Pacific ocean on a 'B.B.C.1.' globe, that has bounced over the cliff, behind some rock / upbeat music.
The '2' looks extactic.
The red caption says:
"The new 'B.B.C.1.' Launching Next Sunday - on 'B.B.C.1.'.
The 'new' rotates into 'old' in the same way that 'BBC Three' rotates into 'Seriously Funny New Comedy', and back on 'B.B.C.3.'.
After the red screen, the '2', and the '1' hug.


What do you think?
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tvmercia Founding member
Rob Del Monte posted:
What do you think?


i think you need to get a life

... well you did ask!!
RD
Rob Del Monte
You don't like me, do you?
R2
r2ro
Rob Del Monte posted:
I have an idea to a relaunch.

I think that they should build up to this rebrand.

It will be really special because it will return the globe, and the '1'.

A caption showing '1997'. It will start off with a ten second trailer, of the '1' with arms, and the '2' with arms, dancing together, at the top of a cliff, or near a danger. then they do the sequence that makes the screen red in two halfs. The text just says "Coming soon".

For the next following teasers, the red screen just displays the digit '1'.

Next teaser, you see the '1' slipping, and falling down the cliff - or into the danger, and the '2' crying? It won't be grusome, more cartooney, for a family audience.

During the same period you see a cartoon 'BBC' marketing deparment shurgging, and setting up a 'Dancers Wanted Sign', and enflating a globe balloon.

Two weeks later you see the '1' twitching at the bottom of the cliff.

Another two weeks later, you see the '1' surfing on a 'clock-surfboard' on the Pacific ocean on a 'BBC1.' globe, that has bounced over the cliff, behind some rock / upbeat music.
The '2' looks extactic.
The red caption says:
"The new 'BBC1.' Launching Next Sunday - on 'BBC1.'.
The 'new' rotates into 'old' in the same way that 'BBC Three' rotates into 'Seriously Funny New Comedy', and back on 'BBC3.'.
After the red screen, the '2', and the '1' hug.


What do you think?


I think it is quite a good idea and would be a nice way of promoting the relaunch. I like the way that there is the connection with the other BBC channels as well and also the storyline with a climax and then the resolution whilst showing the rebrand.
There definitely needs to be something like this though.
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tvarksouthwest
Wicko posted:
Unfortunately, phoning in sick from mid-December through early January is a no-no. Most people in retail sign contracts to say that doctors notes MUST be provided for sickness throughout the Christmas period. Disciplinaries are commonplace in the retail world at Christmas. It is amazing how accurate Dickens was when he created Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. That's how companies have got nowadays......money, money, money, money!!!! Woolies are the worst. Their staff have to work until at least 7.30pm on Christmas Eve (2 and a half hours after the store has shut) to put the Sale banners up. At the same time, the big bosses who get paid millions are enjoying a cosy Christmas with their families.......while their staff are due back to work on Boxing Day. What a lovely world we live in now!!! GREED!!!!!

That is despicable. And to think a so-called Labour government allows it to happen.

What would these shops do if their staff dropped from overwork?
MA
marksi
tvarksouthwest posted:
Wicko posted:
Unfortunately, phoning in sick from mid-December through early January is a no-no. Most people in retail sign contracts to say that doctors notes MUST be provided for sickness throughout the Christmas period. Disciplinaries are commonplace in the retail world at Christmas. It is amazing how accurate Dickens was when he created Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. That's how companies have got nowadays......money, money, money, money!!!! Woolies are the worst. Their staff have to work until at least 7.30pm on Christmas Eve (2 and a half hours after the store has shut) to put the Sale banners up. At the same time, the big bosses who get paid millions are enjoying a cosy Christmas with their families.......while their staff are due back to work on Boxing Day. What a lovely world we live in now!!! GREED!!!!!

That is despicable. And to think a so-called Labour government allows it to happen.

What would these shops do if their staff dropped from overwork?


What line of work are you in, Simon?
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tvarksouthwest
Didn't you know? I'm a male escort...
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Aston
tvarksouthwest posted:
Wicko posted:
Unfortunately, phoning in sick from mid-December through early January is a no-no. Most people in retail sign contracts to say that doctors notes MUST be provided for sickness throughout the Christmas period. Disciplinaries are commonplace in the retail world at Christmas. It is amazing how accurate Dickens was when he created Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. That's how companies have got nowadays......money, money, money, money!!!! Woolies are the worst. Their staff have to work until at least 7.30pm on Christmas Eve (2 and a half hours after the store has shut) to put the Sale banners up. At the same time, the big bosses who get paid millions are enjoying a cosy Christmas with their families.......while their staff are due back to work on Boxing Day. What a lovely world we live in now!!! GREED!!!!!

That is despicable. And to think a so-called Labour government allows it to happen.

What would these shops do if their staff dropped from overwork?


Sorry Simon, this is TV Forum, not Workers-want-their-own-lives-too.co.uk
WI
Wicko
Aston posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Wicko posted:
Unfortunately, phoning in sick from mid-December through early January is a no-no. Most people in retail sign contracts to say that doctors notes MUST be provided for sickness throughout the Christmas period. Disciplinaries are commonplace in the retail world at Christmas. It is amazing how accurate Dickens was when he created Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. That's how companies have got nowadays......money, money, money, money!!!! Woolies are the worst. Their staff have to work until at least 7.30pm on Christmas Eve (2 and a half hours after the store has shut) to put the Sale banners up. At the same time, the big bosses who get paid millions are enjoying a cosy Christmas with their families.......while their staff are due back to work on Boxing Day. What a lovely world we live in now!!! GREED!!!!!

That is despicable. And to think a so-called Labour government allows it to happen.

What would these shops do if their staff dropped from overwork?


Sorry Simon, this is TV Forum, not Workers-want-their-own-lives-too.co.uk


Friendly banter hasn't yet been banned from TV Forum. After all, this is a thread that is gradually winding down and in a few days from now will disappear from our monitor....there is no point in going over how good or bad BBC1's Christmas ident was, it's gone. Unless you work in retail then you are never going to appreciate the point of the online conversation between myself and Simon. Granted, it's not about TV, but surely that doesn't matter......at Christmas, shop staff can't watch much TV because they are always at bloody work. If you work in an office and have a week or so off, think yourself lucky and enjoy Christmas Tv next year. If not, then you will understand my rant. Happy New Year to you all anyway.

THE BBC1 CHRISTMAS IDENT THREAD.........slowly dying...........
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Aston
Wicko posted:
Aston posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Wicko posted:
Unfortunately, phoning in sick from mid-December through early January is a no-no. Most people in retail sign contracts to say that doctors notes MUST be provided for sickness throughout the Christmas period. Disciplinaries are commonplace in the retail world at Christmas. It is amazing how accurate Dickens was when he created Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. That's how companies have got nowadays......money, money, money, money!!!! Woolies are the worst. Their staff have to work until at least 7.30pm on Christmas Eve (2 and a half hours after the store has shut) to put the Sale banners up. At the same time, the big bosses who get paid millions are enjoying a cosy Christmas with their families.......while their staff are due back to work on Boxing Day. What a lovely world we live in now!!! GREED!!!!!

That is despicable. And to think a so-called Labour government allows it to happen.

What would these shops do if their staff dropped from overwork?


Sorry Simon, this is TV Forum, not Workers-want-their-own-lives-too.co.uk


Friendly banter hasn't yet been banned from TV Forum. After all, this is a thread that is gradually winding down and in a few days from now will disappear from our monitor....there is no point in going over how good or bad BBC1's Christmas ident was, it's gone. Unless you work in retail then you are never going to appreciate the point of the online conversation between myself and Simon. Granted, it's not about TV, but surely that doesn't matter......at Christmas, shop staff can't watch much TV because they are always at bloody work. If you work in an office and have a week or so off, think yourself lucky and enjoy Christmas Tv next year. If not, then you will understand my rant. Happy New Year to you all anyway.

THE BBC1 CHRISTMAS IDENT THREAD.........slowly dying...........


Um, I worked in a well known High Street shop for 5 years while I was a student, so can appreciate your point. However, if you want to discuss how unfair it is that your job (that YOU chose) stops you from watching TV, perhaps you could do that in private. Posting in a thread simply to keep it alive before it dies is rather unnecessary.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way.
WI
Wicko
Aston posted:
Wicko posted:
Aston posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Wicko posted:
Unfortunately, phoning in sick from mid-December through early January is a no-no. Most people in retail sign contracts to say that doctors notes MUST be provided for sickness throughout the Christmas period. Disciplinaries are commonplace in the retail world at Christmas. It is amazing how accurate Dickens was when he created Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. That's how companies have got nowadays......money, money, money, money!!!! Woolies are the worst. Their staff have to work until at least 7.30pm on Christmas Eve (2 and a half hours after the store has shut) to put the Sale banners up. At the same time, the big bosses who get paid millions are enjoying a cosy Christmas with their families.......while their staff are due back to work on Boxing Day. What a lovely world we live in now!!! GREED!!!!!

That is despicable. And to think a so-called Labour government allows it to happen.

What would these shops do if their staff dropped from overwork?


Sorry Simon, this is TV Forum, not Workers-want-their-own-lives-too.co.uk


Friendly banter hasn't yet been banned from TV Forum. After all, this is a thread that is gradually winding down and in a few days from now will disappear from our monitor....there is no point in going over how good or bad BBC1's Christmas ident was, it's gone. Unless you work in retail then you are never going to appreciate the point of the online conversation between myself and Simon. Granted, it's not about TV, but surely that doesn't matter......at Christmas, shop staff can't watch much TV because they are always at bloody work. If you work in an office and have a week or so off, think yourself lucky and enjoy Christmas Tv next year. If not, then you will understand my rant. Happy New Year to you all anyway.

THE BBC1 CHRISTMAS IDENT THREAD.........slowly dying...........


Um, I worked in a well known High Street shop for 5 years while I was a student, so can appreciate your point. However, if you want to discuss how unfair it is that your job (that YOU chose) stops you from watching TV, perhaps you could do that in private. Posting in a thread simply to keep it alive before it dies is rather unnecessary.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way.


I did my choose retail it is true........25 years ago when I trained to be a teacher. I did retail and teaching for seven years and then just stuck to retail as teaching became too regulation driven and farcical. Retail was a pleasant alternative then. There was NO late night finish on Christmas Eve. There was NO Boxing Day opening, no New Year's Day opening. It is retail that has changed not it's employees. We have no choice as we have to work to pay bills, but at three years from forty I have no alternative profession other than teaching which I have no desire to return to.

Thanks for your points and concerns which I have taken onboard and appreciate that there is little point in writing in a virtually dying thread. Therefore I will not write in this Christmas Ident thread again, but will participate in the 2006 Christmas Ident thread. With the forthcoming BBC1 relaunch, that should make for interesting reading.

This is Steve, signing off from the 2005 Christmas Ident Thread. I am the weakest link.......goodbye!!

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