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noggin Founding member
Steve Williams posted:

And I say this every year, but people weren't bored of Strictly two weeks ago when it was getting twelve million viewers. Nobody remembers what was on telly last week, let alone last year.


I think the difference with Strictly is that the Christmas special has no real viewer 'investment' in the way the weekly competitive show does. A large chunk of the format has effectively been removed, and it is effectively a nice music and dance show with no real viewer involvement. It's not 'must see' in the same way that the Saturday and Sunday weekly shows are.
BR
Brekkie
RDJ posted:
Hopefully this has shown to the BBC that viewers have an appetite for Christmas special reunions of programmes no longer with us. Though I'm sure the upcoming 'reunion' stage show of Miranda on NYD isn't going to rate very well as they're in a different environment and won't be like the sitcom at all.

The mistake the BBC made in the past when they used to do it before with The Royle Family and OFAH is that it became overkill when they'd make a new Christmas Special for the third or fourth consecutive Christmas.

It would do G&S or the BBC no good if they just aired another Christmas Special next year, as it'll just get compared to this years Special

I think Miranda will get criticised in the same way the Inbetweeners was last year - fans want a full on reunion episode rather than what is essentially a talking heads clip show. Not a BBC show but must say the only other show I'd really like resurrected for a special is The Inbetweeners.


If Gavin and Stacey do more specials they have to consider whether they're set at Christmas or not. They can get repetitive if they do, and really now have covered both bases with the first Essex special (which had already become a classic) and this years Wales version. Nessa and Smithy's wedding would be the more logical next special, which I guess they could set at Christmas if they want too. Having a Christmas abroad might be an option too, but obviously increases the budget.
JO
Jonwo
Brekkie posted:
RDJ posted:
Hopefully this has shown to the BBC that viewers have an appetite for Christmas special reunions of programmes no longer with us. Though I'm sure the upcoming 'reunion' stage show of Miranda on NYD isn't going to rate very well as they're in a different environment and won't be like the sitcom at all.

The mistake the BBC made in the past when they used to do it before with The Royle Family and OFAH is that it became overkill when they'd make a new Christmas Special for the third or fourth consecutive Christmas.

It would do G&S or the BBC no good if they just aired another Christmas Special next year, as it'll just get compared to this years Special

I think Miranda will get criticised in the same way the Inbetweeners was last year - fans want a full on reunion episode rather than what is essentially a talking heads clip show. Not a BBC show but must say the only other show I'd really like resurrected for a special is The Inbetweeners.


Surely a third Inbetweeners film is more likely than a special? I do think after the second film, I'm not sure where they could go apart from perhaps a wedding.
WH
Whataday Founding member
Brekkie posted:
I think Miranda will get criticised in the same way the Inbetweeners was last year


I'm not sure the two are comparable. Miranda is already a theatre-style show which regularly breaks the fourth wall. The style of show suits the variety-style they've adopted for the reunion.
DA
davidhorman
JamesLaverty1925 posted:
Andrew posted:
Anyone know why the Two Ronnies Sketchbook repeat is only 20 mins, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have been that length when it was first shown?


They've repeated it in mainly 30 minute slots since its first airing. I thought the 20 minute slot seemed a little odd as well.


Katie Melua was credited as "With Special Guest" but wasn't in this showing, so that was cut, at least.
MA
Markymark
noggin posted:
Steve Williams posted:

And I say this every year, but people weren't bored of Strictly two weeks ago when it was getting twelve million viewers. Nobody remembers what was on telly last week, let alone last year.


I think the difference with Strictly is that the Christmas special has no real viewer 'investment' in the way the weekly competitive show does. A large chunk of the format has effectively been removed, and it is effectively a nice music and dance show with no real viewer involvement. It's not 'must see' in the same way that the Saturday and Sunday weekly shows are.


How many viewers actually bother to participate anyway on a 'run of mill' mid series SCD, 1%; or more ?
AR
Argybargy
When The Two Ronnies Christmas Sketchbook was originally aired on Christmas Day 2005, it was 60 minutes in length. The 20-minute edit shown 2 days ago was hardly worth the bother, as we only got to see 2 full sketches in between the Rons' studio banter.
LL
Larry the Loafer
I wondered why the edit was so short when I saw it in the TV guide. Don't think I've seen a repeat butchered as severely as that.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Late to this, wondering whether Mrs Brown's Boys was intially planned to run as a single hour, and as that wasn't possible with the scripting, the episode was split across two slots (37' and 28'), that a filler was needed to run up to a previously fixed time news. If you add the durations of MBB (37') and The Two Ronnies Sketchbook (19') together they hit an hour slot.

Odd, I'll agree a 19min cutdown is wierd.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
I suppose it could be argued that something like the Two Ronnies Christmas Sketchbook (and indeed the rest of the regular series) could be used as a filler. After all all they'd have to do is take an opening, an ending, select two or three sketches and stick them all together, et voila, one 20 minute edition.

At the end of the day the format of the shows was effectively just a highlights package of selected sketches from the original shows anyway, not like it has to run as a one hour show.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Neil Jones posted:
I suppose it could be argued that something like the Two Ronnies Christmas Sketchbook (and indeed the rest of the regular series) could be used as a filler. After all all they'd have to do is take an opening, an ending, select two or three sketches and stick them all together, et voila, one 20 minute edition.

At the end of the day the format of the shows was effectively just a highlights package of selected sketches from the original shows anyway, not like it has to run as a one hour show.

They probably thought they couldn’t show a fuller length version as that would push the news too late, and considering it was almost 12 hours since the last bulletin, that wouldn’t have been acceptable.


If Mrs Brown was 37 mins long, Itll be interesting to see how they repeat it in a half hour slot tonight
BR
Brekkie
DVB Cornwall posted:
Late to this, wondering whether Mrs Brown's Boys was intially planned to run as a single hour, and as that wasn't possible with the scripting, the episode was split across two slots (37' and 28'), that a filler was needed to run up to a previously fixed time news. If you add the durations of MBB (37') and The Two Ronnies Sketchbook (19') together they hit an hour slot.

Odd, I'll agree a 19min cutdown is wierd.

Mrs Brown has always been around the half hour mark. Two Ronnies seemed an odd addition to the schedule really and inevitably included dated references in the intros and at 20 minutes not much point to it
really - the BBC seemed quite desperate to push the news as far out of primetime as possible this year.

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