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1st December. Split from Christmas Idents 2018 (November 2018)

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JK
JKDerry
Spencer For Hire posted:
Stuart posted:
I appreciate that the Christmas-fest may be more commercial these days, but as a child I did prefer the excitement of the new idents appearing on BBC/ITV on Christmas Eve, and disappearing on New Year's Day.

It made it seem more special; even if the BBC just had a brown plastic sphere with 'dubious icing' on a turntable. By the time of this example, the cotton wool covering up the mechanics had been concealed. Very Happy

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Totally agree. To me, so much about Christmas has always been the anticipation - that wait for all those magical treats that felt like forever.

Nowadays it feels like all the excitement is over and the presents are unwrapped so long before Christmas has even started.

Do UK broadcasters now treat the UK viewers as people are impatient and can not wait for Christmas to begin?
ST
Stuart
Spencer For Hire posted:
Nowadays it feels like all the excitement is over and the presents are unwrapped so long before Christmas has even started.

I suspect that we need to have a quiet word with Mrs Spencer For Hire about keeping your presents hidden until three-weeks-on-Tuesday Laughing Very Happy
SP
Steve in Pudsey
623058 posted:
It was used for the Birthday slot since 1987? and I believe for Holiday broadcast, Ie Summer, xmas, Easter holls.

Mind you, it looks big enough to have one side CBBC, another for POV/Film XXXX


CBBC on one side, weather on the other in the early days.

There was an occasion when the Broomcupboard failed and Andy Crane had to do the afternoon links from Pres A using the weather blue screen, keyed over the CBBC ident. Of course he had a blue T shirt under his shirt and did the obvious CSO fun.
JA
james-2001
Steve in Pudsey posted:
And tie up an expensive VT machine and operator? The only time they did that they tacked the ident into the end of every trail, which led to a few cockups IIRC


They could have used film and used a telecine instead.
MR
mr_vivian
I personally feel that time goes so fast that I don't mind Christmas idents being shown earlier. I think it's a shame to put effort into making them only for them to appear for a few days.
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SP
Spencer
Stuart posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
Nowadays it feels like all the excitement is over and the presents are unwrapped so long before Christmas has even started.

I suspect that we need to have a quiet word with Mrs Spencer For Hire about keeping your presents hidden until three-weeks-on-Tuesday Laughing Very Happy


It’d be a very big Christmas surprise if I ever discovered I had a wife. Wink
FA
fanoftv
mr_vivian posted:
I personally feel that time goes so fast that I don't mind Christmas idents being shown earlier. I think it's a shame to put effort into making them only for them to appear for a few days.


Obviously nowadays that’d be one of the reasons to justify their extra length of time on air. I asked my sister about Christmas idents whilst watching tv with her last night. She said that they “should be used before Christmas programmes in early December, for example, why should they be used to introduce a documentary on cheese making”. The channel 4 approach I suppose.

Going back to BBC One, it’s so nice to have music as part of the idents in my opinion, it really helps.

Looking back on YouTube at the penguins Ident, I noticed that it launched on 15th December, with many Christmas specials airing the week before Christmas that made sense.
IS
Inspector Sands
james-2001 posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
And tie up an expensive VT machine and operator?

They could have used film and used a telecine instead.

And tie up an expensive telecine suite and operator?
MA
Markymark
Inspector Sands posted:
james-2001 posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
And tie up an expensive VT machine and operator?

They could have used film and used a telecine instead.

And tie up an expensive telecine suite and operator?


Indeed, I don't think it's appreciated how expensive and labour intensive transmitting film or VT was 'back in the day'.
It's why there was an awful lot of the test card, and captions and music if a live event finished unexpectedly early.

Today, programmes fall out of a server at near zero (extra) operational cost, making them just as cheap to show as the test card (Although I know what I'd sooner watch sometimes !)
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P0
p0ab
Si-Co posted:
When did the practice of launching Christmas idents in early December begin? Not just on the BBC but on UK channels in general?

My recollection as a child was of normal idents and presentation throughout December, and the Christmas idents or IVC backdrop (on ITV) launching on the morning of Christmas Eve, or sometimes a day or two beforehand.


From my captures of Scottish TV in the 1990's I can tell you when their Christmas Presentation started.

1990 - Friday 14th December (not confirmed).
1991 - Friday 13th December
1992 - Friday 11th December
1993 - Friday 10th December

Things then started to change a bit.

1994 - Monday 19th December
1995 - Friday 22nd December
1996 - No ident
1997 - Christmas Eve or Christmas Day.
1998 - no ident.
1999 - no ident.

Christmas idents were sporadic in the 00's (only had one in 2003-2005) but since 2009 they have been on every year again.

This year Christmas presentation started yesterday (8th December) which is the earliest I have known for STV.
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A former member
When did the xmas pres start on scottish tv in 1996? the jack in the box snowman, I'm surprised the xmas lights thistle started so early in 1993. In 1999 there was no xmas ident but there was a hogmanay ident.
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p0ab
623058 posted:
WHen did the xmas pres start on scottish tv in 1996? the jack in the box snowman, Im surprised the xmas lights thistle started so early in 1993. IN 1999 there was no xmas ident but there was a hogmanay ident

I'm not sure about that sorry.

I should also add I liked the fact that Scottish TV started so much earlier in the early 90's.

As a child in the 80's and 90's Christmas Eve was way too long to wait for the BBC idents and you would only have the opportunity to see the ident for 3 days. I much prefer the way they do it now.

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