BBC ONE bikes/ rain ident

Has the ident been changed to have close up of people looking at the bikes in the rain? Kid in a car, man looking over the bikes...

anyone seen this? When did it change.

They certainly appear in the long version, and pre-edit version.

So there more than one version? I've only ever seen the version with the bikes going around around etc.

This one?

Thats it, that well hidden that ident. I wonder why its hardly used.

This ident would look much better if the BBC One logo was fully formed from the begging with the red swirl effect appearing once the circle is shown.

The long version (as you can see in Jonny's link of the refreshed long version, and as others have pointed out), contains the footage you describe, and, as the long version was used for the ident’s first TX, you could say it’s the version that's been used on-air the longest. Unfortunately, when it was refreshed, (as you can see in the link) it results in the less than ideal shot of the man’s face on the balcony being obscured by the BBC One logo. That's just my opinion, though, and others may not think it's any big deal.

In case anyone’s interested, I did contact Matt Losasso, director of the Capes ident, a little while back, to ask him how it came to be that the puddle (at about the 4 o’clock position after form-up) appears to go semi-transparent for a few seconds, which results in cyclists appearing to ride underneath, or ‘through’, this puddle. I know this will be viewed by most as a very minor oversight (you have to be very eagle-eyed to spot it), but I was interested in any comments he could give about how it might have happened. He replied to me, with some interesting feedback:

Hi Mr Page,

Thank you for you interest. I will try my best to explain how this may have come about.

The Capes ident was not created entirely in post. We chalked out the spiral in a car park and had 80 cyclists in four coloured teams follow the pattern while it was filmed from high above. These cyclists were then replicated 3 times and the buildings and roundabout were added in post. The puddle, was in fact, really there but as the extra cyclists were added, it appears that two or three of them don't seem to be keyed in correctly, causing the effect you have so keenly spotted.

The post is always made with a deadline as it is an expensive process, and although this error had been noticed it was after it had been sent to air and considered too minor to fix, so sadly it will have to always remain like that, but thank you for this observation.

I hope that helps to answer your query.

Best wishes
Matt

The long Capes ident is quite commonly played on NI.

The current 'long' edit of Capes is faster cut than the original 2008 full ident - with the main circle of riders appearing a good 5 seconds earlier at 10s rather than 15s.

2008 (Network) - http://theident.gallery/player.php?id=BBC1-2008-ID-CAPES
2012 (Network) - http://theident.gallery/player.php?id=BBC1-2010-ID-CAPES-1


As an aside, I've always wondered why Hippos, Surfer and to a degree Capes were retained in their full length versions? Bikes also had a long version in 2009 but I've not seen it recently, and BBC One NI retained the full Penguins.

The Long Bikes variant is shown on BBC ONE NI sometimes.

Just to add to this - have spotted the Network long version of Capes being used to start the day at 6:00am, on at least a few occasions fairly recently.

Just checked my folders and yep, I've got that from 2013 - post BBC One HD with solid red swirls, rather than the 'vaguer' red swirls of the 2009 update.