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IS
Inspector Sands
If I remember rightly, one was the master network and the other was the slave - in other words, decisions about overruns, trail cancellations etc were made in Analogue BBC One, and Digital had to play catch up (or vice-versa). As time went on and the digital automation became more stable, Digital became the master network more of the time and eventually, the analogue area was staffed only in peak. The analogue area still existed at the turn of the milennium but didn't last much longer as I recall.

It lasted well into 2001, although with it's hours gradually lessening - it went 12 hours in 1999 (midday to middnight roughly) and then down to peak only before all transferring upstairs. You're right the one running analogue was the master

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As I understand it, there isn't a separate HD control room for BBC 1 - just one control room doing both. There can be separate junctions and as we've seen during regional news opts, they obviously can put the sustaining news feed out on the SD network while a slide and barker appears on HD.

That makes sense, the automation they use can run a number of different channels from one screen, so it's fairly easy to have One SD and One HD next to each other and sync up their schedules
IS
Inspector Sands
Pebble Mill, when viewed from Pebble Mill road made a unique shape that could be identified easily. The design was unique in that they put the studios at the front, you you knew what was going on inside, and admin was plonked at the back.

But the studios were all sealed boxes so no-one outside would have known what was going on inside them. That is of course for the one studio which was very visible.... but wasn't designed to be a studio in the first place!
BU
buster
So does the BBC News channel provide an opt-out point where the regional news bulletins end at 1345/1855ish/2235 in case anyone hasn't gone to air, or it accepted that it's such a rare occurance they'll just crash out - or they'll be able to be advised a region is still with them and so provide a point to jump out?
GE
thegeek Founding member
I've seen a glimpse of the end frame of the ident - it reminds me a bit of Ramsay Street...

As has been mentioned before, it's still possible, given some notice, to arrange for a more appropriate neighbouring region to be shown, but if there's a technical opting failure, it's been decided it's better to stick with the news channel than inexplicably seeing London.
Some regions have a block booking for a neighbour to be fed to them during their news transmissions, in case their studio suddenly becomes unavailable.
DE
deejay
So does the BBC News channel provide an opt-out point where the regional news bulletins end at 1345/1855ish/2235 in case anyone hasn't gone to air, or it accepted that it's such a rare occurance they'll just crash out - or they'll be able to be advised a region is still with them and so provide a point to jump out?


Yes - remember that the One, Six and Ten are simulcast on the News Channel - so when the presenter says "That's it for now and on BBC One we now join our news teams where you are", the regions all opt out cleanly, then the News Channel (and now the sustaining feed on Network 1 cuts to a 2-shot (usually) to do a paper review or somesuch. There isn't however a clean opt-in point as the news channel simply carry on. So if the regional opt is at 2227, seven and a half minutes later the sustaining service is often midway through the sport bulletin. On Network 1, it simply cuts off and regions opt back, more often than not to the national weather. However, I understand that if a region cannot opt out and News Channel know in advance, they will do what they can to meet the opt back point more cleanly and provide an apology for that region.

As for block bookings for regions to have a more suitable backup, yes I think that does happen - Hull and Leeds can take control of each other's TX chains AIUI and so can Oxford and Southampton. There are also arrangements that can be made to centrally change the opting arrangements so that regional centres can be taken out of the loop completely and a different region can be forced to air instead. (This only works on the digital streeams though).

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AS
Asa Admin
Notice they did the announcer running into the start of Sports Personality again this year. Worked well and timed to perfection. (Thankfully iPlayer went with showing the whole ident too this year)
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The anno into SPOTY was a nice touch. Nicked from Look North, of course

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n6SOBHgo8M
MI
Michael
The anno into SPOTY was a nice touch. Nicked from Look North, of course

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n6SOBHgo8M


I prefer this way round:

http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/mivana/mediaplayer.php?id=2a98a4e13290d1c71cca74d4a2ce5801&media=bbclooknorthmain070404&type=mp4
SP
Steve in Pudsey


It was weird when regional progs got moved to BBC2 and they did that with Bounce behind the opening!
DA
David
Asa posted:
Notice they did the announcer running into the start of Sports Personality again this year. Worked well and timed to perfection. (Thankfully iPlayer went with showing the whole ident too this year)


How did the nations handle this? Did their own CA speak over the clean feed of BBC Sports Personality of the Year or did everyone take network?
DA
David
Bob Monkhouse on QI?
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It seems unlikely although I haven't seen tonights QI yet (I'll wait for the 45 minute version if there is such a thing this week).
AB
ashley b Founding member
Just had a brief appearance of the Christmas breakdown slide on BBC One. Trails were playing with sound but no picture, when this popperd up for around 2 seconds:
http://www.ashfish.net/christmas08/christmasbreakdown.jpg

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