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Markymark
Jonny posted:

Here's the final 4 minutes of the problems; this had been going on for a good 15 minutes:


Met Office radar data showed a small but intense thunderstorm over Leicester at that time. Almost certainly rain fade on the OB uplink.
Last edited by Markymark on 6 June 2010 6:41pm
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Steve in Pudsey
Maybe for this kind of programme they ought to have a back up ISDN circuit so that the programme could at least continue in sound only?

It's a shame that the BBC doesn't have production studios around the country any more - this kind of programme could have used those studios rather than random school halls, with the more resilient lines that are available between BBC facilities.
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A former member
Chie posted:
Did anyone cap the new sunshine-themed programme menu earlier on? I think it was before or after The One Show.


http://www.theidentgallery.com/bbc1/BBC1-2010-MENU-SUN-1.mp4
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thegeek Founding member
I wonder why this is. I thought Red Bee/BBC would have all kinds of clever equipment that would automatically put subtitles to air for pre-recorded shows like this.
Yes and no...
Some broadcasters use subtitles in the vertical blanking (line 21, IIRC), which will be on the tape that's delivered to playout, and on server, and so on. Red Bee do it a different way, and keep their subs in a separate file, which is then inserted into the broadcast chain using a data bridge.
To play prerecorded subs, someone will need to find the appropriate file, and play it out at the same time as the programme. If the programme is coming off tape (as I think standby programmes are still done), or the mixer was in emergency cut mode, then perhaps the subtitle server wasn't able to see the timecode and it wasn't synced properly.

(this is partly speculation - some of the subtitling system is a bit of a mystery to me)

Maybe for this kind of programme they ought to have a back up ISDN circuit so that the programme could at least continue in sound only?

Perhaps a more robust uplink? Smile
Higher profile OBs do have ISDN backups - for example, if the BBC's Grand Prix feed fails, then the first standby is the EBU multilateral feed with ISDN commentary. (And should both of those fail, then it's 5 Live and a slate)
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Markymark


Maybe for this kind of programme they ought to have a back up ISDN circuit so that the programme could at least continue in sound only?

Perhaps a more robust uplink? Smile


Even fixed earth stations lose their uplink during monsoon rain conditions. Arqiva Crawley Court, Sky Chilworth, and BBC TVC all have instances where multiple services have been lost due to local thunderstorms, but I acknowledge by your smiley you're only teasing !


Higher profile OBs do have ISDN backups - for example, if the BBC's Grand Prix feed fails, then the first standby is the EBU multilateral feed with ISDN commentary. (And should both of those fail, then it's 5 Live and a slate)


We can't be far off the point where a standby ADSL line (and remember many sports OBs use them to allow graphics to be sent to and from base) couldn't provide a 5-10 Mb/s back up programme feed ?
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Steve in Pudsey
You'd probably want SDSL for that Wink
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Andrew Founding member
Has everyone noticed the strange back to back EastEnders trails that are airing at the moment.

A normal trail for EE airs "EastEnders, all this week on BBC ONE" etc
And then a static programme slide appears with the live CA saying "And the next episode of EastEnders is on Monday at 8pm"
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Markymark
You'd probably want SDSL for that Wink


Ha ! You're quite right !!!
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Has everyone noticed the strange back to back EastEnders trails that are airing at the moment.

A normal trail for EE airs "EastEnders, all this week on BBC ONE" etc
And then a static programme slide appears with the live CA saying "And the next episode of EastEnders is on Monday at 8pm"


Probably having to signpost the episodes due to the World Cup schedule. Looks to me that of all the soaps, Eastenders is worst affected next week, with no episodes in their usual timeslot.
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Mike516
Interesting ident, that World Cup one... (Aired at 1859)
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chris
a516 posted:
Interesting ident, that World Cup one... (Aired at 1859)


A very nice ident, unexpected too. I would have thought football would have been used throughout. I like the way the white "circle" reforms each time the three notes are heard.
CY
cylon6
a516 posted:
Interesting ident, that World Cup one... (Aired at 1859)


I thought there might be a special World Cup themed one. Anybody managed to capture it yet?

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