GR
It was Hippos tonight....
I didn't say it would air at every junction before EastEnders!
I just know they plan to use it throughout the year, whether they will pick significant episodes or if it will be random I do not know.
Regarding the EastEnders ident, I understand it is going to air for the rest of the year celebrating the 25th Year of the soap.
It was Hippos tonight....
I didn't say it would air at every junction before EastEnders!
I just know they plan to use it throughout the year, whether they will pick significant episodes or if it will be random I do not know.
GE
Looks like Wales using there daffodils ident again although sounds as if they are using a fx version of the petals ident instead of the moon soundtrack
GE
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There's a rare London opt-out on BBC One at 7.30pm this Wednesday, for When The Olympics Come To Town - while Network are showing a repeat of a cookery show.
(At the same time, Norwich and Cambridge get a programme about local soldiers in Afghanistan, and Wales gets a history programme.)
(At the same time, Norwich and Cambridge get a programme about local soldiers in Afghanistan, and Wales gets a history programme.)
WE
Was London ever able to opt itself out of network in the 'old days'?
I was under the impression it had to stay as 'ex networked repeated shows' eg 'Dads Army', while everyone else did there own thing, in case one of the regions 'fell over?
Or was Pebble Mill, as was, able to run a network feed for everyone else while London opted out themselves?
I don't ever remember it coming up!
There's a rare London opt-out on BBC One at 7.30pm this Wednesday, for When The Olympics Come To Town - while Network are showing a repeat of a cookery show.
(At the same time, Norwich and Cambridge get a programme about local soldiers in Afghanistan, and Wales gets a history programme.)
(At the same time, Norwich and Cambridge get a programme about local soldiers in Afghanistan, and Wales gets a history programme.)
Was London ever able to opt itself out of network in the 'old days'?
I was under the impression it had to stay as 'ex networked repeated shows' eg 'Dads Army', while everyone else did there own thing, in case one of the regions 'fell over?
Or was Pebble Mill, as was, able to run a network feed for everyone else while London opted out themselves?
I don't ever remember it coming up!
IS
Was London ever able to opt itself out of network in the 'old days'?
I don't ever remember it coming up!
Until about 1999/2000 the South East region (as it was then) couldn't opt at all, what was on the network was on in the South East.
However it was possible to broadcast a different programme to the South East. For obvious reasons the presentation areas were always built with one more suite than was needed and they used the spare. A director in the spare suite played out the regional programme and the regular BBC1 suite continued with national programmes. How the actual splitting of the feeds to the transmitters was done I'm not sure although I don't think the opt out facilities were that complicated to install when they were, so there must have been the ability to over patch Crystal Palace etc seperately. I'm not sure how many times this was done but I'm pretty sure the last occasion was sometime in 1999
EDIT: I've just realised that of course, the BBC's RBS tests utilise the ability to split CP from the rest of the country so the feeds would probably have always been splitable
The South East gained opt-out facilities when the arrangements regarding how the analogue and digital versions of BBC1 and 2 changed and UK Today became the sustaining programme. They have done several non-news opt outs over the years - the opening of City Hall for example. I believe that they have done at least one time-shift of the network schedule too.
Of course in the old old days, there wasn't a 'South East' region as such - it only really existed operationally when Newsroom South East started in the late 80's so it's unlikely that it was was ever required.
The only time Pebble Mill would be involved is if there was an opt out for the Midlands
That is usually the case now, when a region has a programme opt normally network carry a repeat that no-one's particually bothered about - hence you sometimes see something like One Foot in the Grave or Men behaving Badly on at 10:30 or Keeping up Appearances on Sunday lunchtime while 'the north' gets the Superleague show
However sometimes if that's not possible the region involved will time-shift the displaced and following programmes until it can meet up with the network schedule.
Was London ever able to opt itself out of network in the 'old days'?
I don't ever remember it coming up!
Until about 1999/2000 the South East region (as it was then) couldn't opt at all, what was on the network was on in the South East.
However it was possible to broadcast a different programme to the South East. For obvious reasons the presentation areas were always built with one more suite than was needed and they used the spare. A director in the spare suite played out the regional programme and the regular BBC1 suite continued with national programmes. How the actual splitting of the feeds to the transmitters was done I'm not sure although I don't think the opt out facilities were that complicated to install when they were, so there must have been the ability to over patch Crystal Palace etc seperately. I'm not sure how many times this was done but I'm pretty sure the last occasion was sometime in 1999
EDIT: I've just realised that of course, the BBC's RBS tests utilise the ability to split CP from the rest of the country so the feeds would probably have always been splitable
The South East gained opt-out facilities when the arrangements regarding how the analogue and digital versions of BBC1 and 2 changed and UK Today became the sustaining programme. They have done several non-news opt outs over the years - the opening of City Hall for example. I believe that they have done at least one time-shift of the network schedule too.
Of course in the old old days, there wasn't a 'South East' region as such - it only really existed operationally when Newsroom South East started in the late 80's so it's unlikely that it was was ever required.
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Or was Pebble Mill, as was, able to run a network feed for everyone else while London opted out themselves?
The only time Pebble Mill would be involved is if there was an opt out for the Midlands
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I was under the impression it had to stay as 'ex networked repeated shows' eg 'Dads Army', while everyone else did there own thing, in case one of the regions 'fell over?
That is usually the case now, when a region has a programme opt normally network carry a repeat that no-one's particually bothered about - hence you sometimes see something like One Foot in the Grave or Men behaving Badly on at 10:30 or Keeping up Appearances on Sunday lunchtime while 'the north' gets the Superleague show
However sometimes if that's not possible the region involved will time-shift the displaced and following programmes until it can meet up with the network schedule.
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WE
The Scottish Politics Show tends to be longer than it's sister shows, doesn't it?
I'm surprised none of the other regions(except the North obviously) have took the opportunity to extend their shows, instead of transmitting the likes of 'Keeping Up Appearences' on Sunday lunchtimes?
You could have them doing their normal 20 mins, then going back to London, to finish the network show, then going back to the regions for another half hour or so, unless the region in question has the facillity to 'tape' the last bit of the network show, then play it out after they've finished in the region.
(I guess the Scots have a server facillity to do this anyway!)
These cutback things mentioned today, they said something about maybe more investment in local stuff.
It's an idea.
I'm surprised none of the other regions(except the North obviously) have took the opportunity to extend their shows, instead of transmitting the likes of 'Keeping Up Appearences' on Sunday lunchtimes?
You could have them doing their normal 20 mins, then going back to London, to finish the network show, then going back to the regions for another half hour or so, unless the region in question has the facillity to 'tape' the last bit of the network show, then play it out after they've finished in the region.
(I guess the Scots have a server facillity to do this anyway!)
These cutback things mentioned today, they said something about maybe more investment in local stuff.
It's an idea.
JO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTjTRIPCJF4
They made a few changes to the ident itself too: the BBC One logo appeared at the start rather than the middle and the former predominantly white swirls were changed to predominantly red ones.
Looks like Wales using there daffodils ident again although sounds as if they are using a fx version of the petals ident instead of the moon soundtrack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTjTRIPCJF4
They made a few changes to the ident itself too: the BBC One logo appeared at the start rather than the middle and the former predominantly white swirls were changed to predominantly red ones.
PA
Haha, the BBC1 anno on form tonight - "And now, for my best female voice..." - cut to the Masterchef female voiceover. 