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AL
altrus


Good.
It was a rather rubish show, really you could say 'what did you expect' from a saturday night show on BBC One but at least get some history right.
NT
NorthTonight
At least BBC One gave Robin Hood some sort of good " innings ". I hope they will find another or a new drama to replace it, and not more Weakest Link or celebrity / reality ideas. And on that subject I think that the BBC are really taking the you-know-what showing " normal people " Weakest Link repeats on a Saturday night.

Saturday night needs a good kick up the backside. Generation Game anyone? Smile
AM
amosc100
How about a remake of either Blake's 7 or even The Tripods, and let them see if they can show the full story this time!!!!!!! ? LOL

Or how about a 2nd remake of The Tomorrow People???

sounds more like decent Saturday Night family drama fayre!
SN
Silver Nemesis
BBC One Wales - Torchwood Hippos (again, sorry for the poor quality of the video)

[media:1d13a2fceb]http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Silver_Nemesis/bbc1wales-torchwoodhippos-030709-small.flv[/media:1d13a2fceb]
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Silver Nemesis
BBC One Wales - Torchwood Dog Display

[media:974a6f850e]http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Silver_Nemesis/bbc1wales-torchwooddogdisplay-030709-small.flv[/media:974a6f850e]

(This will be my last upload tonight, though I'll try to capture any that appear later on and upload them tomorrow. I hope they show Petals again at some point because I missed that one.)
SN
Silver Nemesis
In case anyone is interested:

BBC One Wales - Torchwood Kites (shown before Jonathan Ross last night):
(The Kites sequence looked awful when I first converted this to FLV so I've had to increase the file size to get a half-decent result - sorry.)


[media:717c02ab9d]http://up.metropol247.co.uk/Silver_Nemesis/bbc1wales-torchwoodkites-030709-small.flv[/media:717c02ab9d]

I'm surprised they've done so many (wasn't it only Zoetrope that Network did last year?). It must have taken a lot of someone's time to produce all these - and the announcer must surely have to pre-record them to make sure the announcement is timed perfectly so nothing important is cut out.
TC
TonyCurrie
Timing announcements properly in a live situation is what we're paid to do. No need for recording!
SN
Silver Nemesis
Timing announcements properly in a live situation is what we're paid to do. No need for recording!

I appreciate that - would I be correct in saying that the BBC Wales announcers, then, are cutting the sound from their microphone and re-instating it at *precisely* the moments that the "interruption" of the ident starts and ends, or is it more complicated than that? Either way, I'm in awe of what they're doing!!
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Steve D
Timing announcements properly in a live situation is what we're paid to do. No need for recording!

I appreciate that - would I be correct in saying that the BBC Wales announcers, then, are cutting the sound from their microphone and re-instating it at *precisely* the moments that the "interruption" of the ident starts and ends, or is it more complicated than that? Either way, I'm in awe of what they're doing!!


No, you were right the first time. It would be impossible to time it that accurately because you don't want the voice to crash the FX, and you want the pick-up to happen immediately afterwards with no gap. Also, to get the 'interference' effect to look and sound right you can't fade out, you need the v/o to cut immediately, and also there's a need to place the FX at a point in the v/o where nothing of crucial importance will be lost, but you don't just want to pause and then continue the sentence afterwards, as that rather kills the effect anyway - it has to cut in over a continuous sentence.

The voice-overs are recorded about 15 mins before the jucntion (so you have a final script to hand and know the duration of the slot it's got to fit) and the whole thing is bolted together in Final Cut Pro and FTPd back to the transmission servers in time for the junction.

There'll be a few more placings up to and including Monday evening.
SN
Silver Nemesis
Thanks for that, Steve - I look forward to the next airings and I'll do my best to record them if I can.
TV
TV Times
Timing announcements properly in a live situation is what we're paid to do. No need for recording!

I appreciate that - would I be correct in saying that the BBC Wales announcers, then, are cutting the sound from their microphone and re-instating it at *precisely* the moments that the "interruption" of the ident starts and ends, or is it more complicated than that? Either way, I'm in awe of what they're doing!!


No, you were right the first time. It would be impossible to time it that accurately because you don't want the voice to crash the FX, and you want the pick-up to happen immediately afterwards with no gap. Also, to get the 'interference' effect to look and sound right you can't fade out, you need the v/o to cut immediately, and also there's a need to place the FX at a point in the v/o where nothing of crucial importance will be lost, but you don't just want to pause and then continue the sentence afterwards, as that rather kills the effect anyway - it has to cut in over a continuous sentence.

The voice-overs are recorded about 15 mins before the jucntion (so you have a final script to hand and know the duration of the slot it's got to fit) and the whole thing is bolted together in Final Cut Pro and FTPd back to the transmission servers in time for the junction.

There'll be a few more placings up to and including Monday evening.


You can always rely on BBC Wales to make an effort with presentation - far more creative than network!
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denton
Timing announcements properly in a live situation is what we're paid to do. No need for recording!

I appreciate that - would I be correct in saying that the BBC Wales announcers, then, are cutting the sound from their microphone and re-instating it at *precisely* the moments that the "interruption" of the ident starts and ends, or is it more complicated than that? Either way, I'm in awe of what they're doing!!


No, you were right the first time. It would be impossible to time it that accurately because you don't want the voice to crash the FX, and you want the pick-up to happen immediately afterwards with no gap. Also, to get the 'interference' effect to look and sound right you can't fade out, you need the v/o to cut immediately, and also there's a need to place the FX at a point in the v/o where nothing of crucial importance will be lost, but you don't just want to pause and then continue the sentence afterwards, as that rather kills the effect anyway - it has to cut in over a continuous sentence.

The voice-overs are recorded about 15 mins before the jucntion (so you have a final script to hand and know the duration of the slot it's got to fit) and the whole thing is bolted together in Final Cut Pro and FTPd back to the transmission servers in time for the junction.

There'll be a few more placings up to and including Monday evening.


Was this a Marketing idea, or did it spring from the Pres dept? Either way, Very nicely made... 10 out of 10!

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