IS
Red Bee will playout anything that the bbc tells them to.
If BBC1 haven't shown something that they never said they would in the first place but a couple of people on the Internet for some reason assumed they would... then that's just because either no one there had thought of it or they decided there was no point in doing so.
If BBC1 haven't shown something that they never said they would in the first place but a couple of people on the Internet for some reason assumed they would... then that's just because either no one there had thought of it or they decided there was no point in doing so.
BA
The point you have missed here is that BBC One used to do such things, and this classically would be a example when they could/would. We're lamenting the fact they no long do so, and that overall presentation (of which this forum is entirely the point of) is lacking in general at the BBC at the moment.
Bail
Moderator
If BBC1 haven't shown something that they never said they would in the first place but a couple of people on the Internet for some reason assumed they would... then that's just because either no one there had thought of it or they decided there was no point in doing so.
The point you have missed here is that BBC One used to do such things, and this classically would be a example when they could/would. We're lamenting the fact they no long do so, and that overall presentation (of which this forum is entirely the point of) is lacking in general at the BBC at the moment.
DE
I think though the problem is that when the BBC had Presentation within its walls, it left channel presentation up to them - the real experts I'm the field of channel presentation, branding, promotion and navigation - all these roles are now done by different departments, some BBC owned, some outsourced. As the Inspector says, Red Bee literally do what they're told to do by the BBC. Those in the BBC who make the decisions are no longer are as closely involved with presentation as such and so, as long as then programmes start and end at the right time on the correct channel, they're happy. Ideas like special symbols, bringing back old idents, compiling a special music tape for the last ceefax, either have to be proposed by someone in red bee and agreed by the BBC, or asked for by the BBC in the first place.
I'm sure that the reason these things appear sometimes in the nations is because it's all still in house, run by people who have the references to the past to know how things once we're done and that nostalgia once in a while or some really lovely creative ideas can really make a difference!
I'm sure that the reason these things appear sometimes in the nations is because it's all still in house, run by people who have the references to the past to know how things once we're done and that nostalgia once in a while or some really lovely creative ideas can really make a difference!
SW
But you can't say they no longer do so, because they just did it for the Commonwealth Games last week. And in the other thread there are complaints that the WWI presentation is messy and doesn't fit the brand.
The point you have missed here is that BBC One
used
to do such things, and this classically would be a example when they could/would. We're lamenting the fact they no long do so, and that overall presentation (of which this forum is entirely the point of) is lacking in general at the BBC at the moment.
But you can't say they no longer do so, because they just did it for the Commonwealth Games last week. And in the other thread there are complaints that the WWI presentation is messy and doesn't fit the brand.
IS
It is very rare for BBC1 to produce a special ident for a particular programme (rather than a season), in fact I can only think of 2 - Strictly Come Dancing and Life on Mars (or the other one). There's hardly a precedent.
BBC2 did make a bit of an effort with the last series of Bake Off, but then it was their biggest programme
BBC2 did make a bit of an effort with the last series of Bake Off, but then it was their biggest programme
JA
I assume by other one you mean it's sequel Ashes to Ashes. And yeah, they did bring back the mirror globe for Life on Mars series 2. Strictly of course has the glitterball ident, and Fame Academy had a special ident as well, which would end up in general rotation.
http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/bbcone/images_idents/2002/bbc1musicvideo2002_a.jpg
http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/bbcone/images_idents/2002/bbc1musicvideo2002_a.jpg
CR
In recent years:
Bang Goes the The Theory had a special ident, as did EastEnders, Planet Dinosaur, Frozen Planet, Planet Earth Live, Children in Need, the Titanic Season in NI (with the BBC Two Titanic ident now in regular rotation I believe in NI), Saturday Night's one year, Africa and the Voice, as The Ident Gallery documents. There have been quite a few, and some of them with much lower viewing figures than Bake Off.
As for the quality of the special idents - I think it's fair to say that they are, on the whole, pretty poor. Bang goes the Theory, EastEnders and Ashes to Ashes being the exceptions.
Bang Goes the The Theory had a special ident, as did EastEnders, Planet Dinosaur, Frozen Planet, Planet Earth Live, Children in Need, the Titanic Season in NI (with the BBC Two Titanic ident now in regular rotation I believe in NI), Saturday Night's one year, Africa and the Voice, as The Ident Gallery documents. There have been quite a few, and some of them with much lower viewing figures than Bake Off.
As for the quality of the special idents - I think it's fair to say that they are, on the whole, pretty poor. Bang goes the Theory, EastEnders and Ashes to Ashes being the exceptions.
CH
Yes, but I think people are forgetting about the complete lack of special idents during the dancers...
In recent years:
Bang Goes the The Theory had a special ident, as did EastEnders, Planet Dinosaur, Frozen Planet, Planet Earth Live, Children in Need, the Titanic Season in NI (with the BBC Two Titanic ident now in regular rotation I believe in NI), Saturday Night's one year, Africa and the Voice, as The Ident Gallery documents. There have been quite a few, and some of them with much lower viewing figures than Bake Off.
As for the quality of the special idents - I think it's fair to say that they are, on the whole, pretty poor. Bang goes the Theory, EastEnders and Ashes to Ashes being the exceptions.
Bang Goes the The Theory had a special ident, as did EastEnders, Planet Dinosaur, Frozen Planet, Planet Earth Live, Children in Need, the Titanic Season in NI (with the BBC Two Titanic ident now in regular rotation I believe in NI), Saturday Night's one year, Africa and the Voice, as The Ident Gallery documents. There have been quite a few, and some of them with much lower viewing figures than Bake Off.
As for the quality of the special idents - I think it's fair to say that they are, on the whole, pretty poor. Bang goes the Theory, EastEnders and Ashes to Ashes being the exceptions.
Yes, but I think people are forgetting about the complete lack of special idents during the dancers...
SW
I doubt that was a Fame Academy ident, it was launched at the same time as Fame Academy but it has nothing to do with the programme (especially when the point of Fame Academy was to create something other than an identikit pop star) and there were other idents in that set that were just as appropriate (the festival one, for a start).
I assume by other one you mean it's sequel Ashes to Ashes. And yeah, they did bring back the mirror globe for Life on Mars series 2. Strictly of course has the glitterball ident, and Fame Academy had a special ident as well, which would end up in general rotation.
I doubt that was a Fame Academy ident, it was launched at the same time as Fame Academy but it has nothing to do with the programme (especially when the point of Fame Academy was to create something other than an identikit pop star) and there were other idents in that set that were just as appropriate (the festival one, for a start).