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DE
deejay
Blake Connolly posted:
JAS84 posted:
Symbol could also mean logo. Ident definitely refers to the clips shown before programmes with the logo on them. There is a difference and ident is the better word to use IMHO.


It's a BBC thing, the Beeb has a history of using different words for all sorts of things to the rest of the industry, and they've always been known as "symbols" at the BBC.

Speaking of which, think there should be something new tonight at about 9ish...


Yes but in the opening announcement on TVS in 1982, the announcer says "In a moment you'll see the TVS Symbol which will become very familiar" so I think the term was used more in the past than it is now. Increasingly in the BBC it's known as an Ident rather than a Symbol, even by people working at Red Bee.
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A former member
Can someone explain the following:

How did the BBC get this detail so wrong?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hgdLC70qowY#t=33s

* http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/8171671/Mike-Yarwoods-1977-Christmas-Show-tops-the-list-of-10-most-watched-Christmas-programmes.html
* http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv-ratings-uk-70s.htm#77

Also can someone say why Question time was never networked until 1980. Only from the 21 February 1980 when The series was moved to its current Thursday night slot, its become fully networked within BBC, with Scotland and Northern Island broadcasting finally taking the series from this point onwards.
DF
DrewF
My god, this Animal Antics is just terrible - could have been filmed 10 years ago. For some reason a man in a dog costume also presents it too. Looks like it belongs on ITV2 at 3 in the morning, not prime-time BBC One.
DK
DanielK
What Ident(s) do they usually use to introduce Sports and News broadcasts? Also, does anyone have the generic ident?
JA
JAS84
The news tends to be Capes or Helicopter, while I know Match of the Day uses Football.
DK
DanielK
Okay, thank you!
CA
Cavan
JAS84 posted:
The news tends to be Capes or Helicopter, while I know Match of the Day uses Football.


Don't forget Kites, it tends to be used before the news.
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A former member
Quote:
Former director general of the BBC Alasdair Milne, who led the corporation from 1982 until 1987, has died at the age of 82


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/09/alasdair-milne-bbc-director-general-dies

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/09/alasdair-milne

For anyone that has NOT clicked who he is, he had to leave over the "Zircon spy satellite" BBC scotland office was raided by the police,
CY
cylon6
623058 posted:
Can someone explain the following:

How did the BBC get this detail so wrong?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hgdLC70qowY#t=33s

* http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/8171671/Mike-Yarwoods-1977-Christmas-Show-tops-the-list-of-10-most-watched-Christmas-programmes.html
* http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv-ratings-uk-70s.htm#77

Also can someone say why Question time was never networked until 1980. Only from the 21 February 1980 when The series was moved to its current Thursday night slot, its become fully networked within BBC, with Scotland and Northern Island broadcasting finally taking the series from this point onwards.


The problem about the 28m rating for Morecambe & Wise's Christmas Show in 1977 is that the figure has been around for so long it's just accepted. At the time it even made the Guinness Book Of Records. It's only in the last few years that the BBC methodology for calculating ratings then has been dismissed and ITV's JICTAR ratings seen as more accurate. So it's difficult to re-educate people as they just won't budge. Many people at the time like Eddie Braben, Barry Norman etc were told it was 28m and they still quote the figure.
TI
tightrope78
623058 posted:
Quote:
Former director general of the BBC Alasdair Milne, who led the corporation from 1982 until 1987, has died at the age of 82


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/09/alasdair-milne-bbc-director-general-dies

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/09/alasdair-milne

For anyone that has NOT clicked who he is, he had to leave over the "Zircon spy satellite" BBC scotland office was raided by the police,


A much overlooked DG. When was appointed there was no breakfast TV, Nationwide was still on air and BBC1 was still using the mirror globe. By the time he left Breakfast Time was on air, the COW was the symbol of BBC1, EastEnders was the most successful programme in the country and the structure of daily BBC1 schedules was in place that still exists today. During his time the BBC was unashamedly populist and unafraid to take in the Conservative government. Everything the BBC isn't today.
IS
Inspector Sands
tightrope78 posted:
A much overlooked DG. When was appointed there was no breakfast TV, Nationwide was still on air and BBC1 was still using the mirror globe. By the time he left Breakfast Time was on air, the COW was the symbol of BBC1, EastEnders was the most successful programme in the country and the structure of daily BBC1 schedules was in place that still exists today.

Although I doubt any of them were things he was actually directly responsible for as DG
JA
JAS84
tightrope78 posted:
A much overlooked DG. When was appointed there was no breakfast TV, Nationwide was still on air and BBC1 was still using the mirror globe. By the time he left Breakfast Time was on air, the COW was the symbol of BBC1, EastEnders was the most successful programme in the country and the structure of daily BBC1 schedules was in place that still exists today.
Was until last month you mean. It's changed a bit now due to the removal of CBBC.

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