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WillPS

Do you get a kick out of posting fabricated drivel?
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Sense of humour meltdown.
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Put The Telly On

Do you get a kick out of posting fabricated drivel?
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Sense of humour meltdown.


I'm sorry to hear that.
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Paul Clark
David posted:
Which TV Forum member is this?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01k1hgn/?t=9m23s

I think they've cut the bit where the camera stops rolling and he says "Wuzzat awrigh'?" in a strong cockney accent.

PoV on iPlayer has been categorised as 'Factual' - that's without the inverted commas, though they might want to add them in this case.
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Michael
The bit afterwards (the endless, pointless argument about football) involved a wonderful question:

"Why does the BBC find it necessary to screen three hours of football in primetime?"

Because, prelims and halftime included, a match lasts 3 hours nowadays (45 mins a half plus stoppage = ~100 mins, 20 mins halftime = 120mins, 15-20 mins introduction = 140 mins, 40 mins reaction at end of match plus highlights of earlier match = 180mins.)
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bilky asko
David posted:
That's exactly the kind of nonsense POV seems to specialise in giving airtime to, rather than legitimate issues. Time-shifting has been possible since the invention of the home video recorder, but in 2012 with all that's available the whole "the schedule is inconvenient for me" argument is well and truly redundant...


What if you are a 13 year old boy who has to go to bed at 9pm and is only allowed 30 minutes of internet time a day, using the only computer in the house which must be kept in the family room? It's all very well saying he gets an hour on Saturday but he has to use that time to do his homework too. As for Sunday, there will be no Internet access in this house on the Lord's day and certainly no TV viewing, iPlayer or otherwise, before Songs of Praise comes on.

No, you can't turn the television set on early and watch yourself on Points of View. How dare you even ask such a thing. Now, go to your wendy house and think about what you have done. There will be no bread and jam for you this evening, young man.

What then?


Do you get a kick out of posting fabricated drivel?
You are "Joshua" and I claim my £10.

There are a good amount of middle-class families around where David's description is the reality.

To go back to the Points of View film, I'd be very surprised if that kid does not have any of the following: a) a TV in his bedroom, b) a console that goes online and that one can add the iPlayer to as an option/channel/add-on or whatever, c) a computer system. d) access to a video or DVD recorder. What about going round somebody else's house and using their internet to watch a BBC Two documentary about the Romans?

a) His parents may be strict on the 9pm bedtime, so any TV that may be in there (which isn't a certainty by a lon chalk) might not be able to be used.
b) Not everyone has internet access, or if they do a decent wireless connection, or a download limit to allow BBC iPlayer streaming.
c) Likewise with the internet access
d) DVD recorders aren't common, and not everyone has a hard-disk PVR.

Is it really that inconceivable that his parents may be both middle-class and not spend lavishly? Or that they may not feel that post-watershed viewing is appropriate, no matter how innocent the programme actually is?

There is no "point" to be made here on that film. This is 2012. The iPlayer is on more-or-less every games console going, lots of TVs, the internet, I dare say even smartphones, and the channels are FTA if you point a satellite dish in the right direction with a receiver. It's almost impossible to miss. This is not 1946 where you have to be in the right part of the country to see anything, you can be in the middle of nowhere and see anything.

I think his main point is that soaps, with their adult themes, would be better suited to a post-watershed slot, and the quality documentaries should be more accessible in scheduling terms.

I don't really have a strong view either way, but it isn't that strange that this boy's situation may be shared by others, or even true. Despite what your friends may have told you back at school, very few children go to bed when they want - 9pm is on the early side, but not unthinkable for a 13-year-old, especially one that may have to get an early bus for school, for example.
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Ben Founding member
While his points may have been valid, surely whoever produced that film was having a laugh at that kids expense?
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Thomas
He seemed to mention Indian Ocean as a good alternative 8pm show. I distinctly remember one of the episodes showing teenagers smoking drugs in a township in South Africa - not exactly pre-watershed viewing is it? A bad example on his part.
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Neil Jones Founding member
I don't really have a strong view either way, but it isn't that strange that this boy's situation may be shared by others, or even true. Despite what your friends may have told you back at school, very few children go to bed when they want - 9pm is on the early side, but not unthinkable for a 13-year-old, especially one that may have to get an early bus for school, for example.


I might have had more sympathy with the kid and the points and issues he raised if the opening to the piece didn't look like the opening to a Goodies sketch and the rest of the piece didn't sound like a rehearsal for the State Opening of Parliament of the next King.
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Andrew Founding member
Ben posted:
While his points may have been valid, surely whoever produced that film was having a laugh at that kids expense?


The juxtaposition between posh boy and awful chavvy Kat Moon screaming at someone was quite funny.

His voice did sound so posh it was bordering on someone doing a fake comedy posh voice. Never mind EastEnders he probably thinks Outnumbered is based on a working class chav family. Laughing
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AxG
Naughty BBC One, yet again the 'BBC ONE' box logo has made a reappearance on the BBC Sport board just after the regional news. Rolling Eyes
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bilky asko
I don't really have a strong view either way, but it isn't that strange that this boy's situation may be shared by others, or even true. Despite what your friends may have told you back at school, very few children go to bed when they want - 9pm is on the early side, but not unthinkable for a 13-year-old, especially one that may have to get an early bus for school, for example.


I might have had more sympathy with the kid and the points and issues he raised if the opening to the piece didn't look like the opening to a Goodies sketch and the rest of the piece didn't sound like a rehearsal for the State Opening of Parliament of the next King.


I'm sure he didn't direct the piece.

12 days later

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chris
Seem to be some bad sound level issues on BBC One tonight. Started at the end of Wimbledon which went really quiet, remained quiet throughout until the ident which was remarkably louder. News headlines went quiet again before returning to normal after about two stories.

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