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David 20 May 2012 2:21pm

If they were testing DTT RBS, why would they put the cue dot on the DTH satellite feeds?

Ah, sorry, I see now. I'd assumed the BBC 1 SE was DTT, but Scotland was D-Sat ?

To be clear, I was watching both BBC One SE and BBC One Scotland on Sky (SD). I couldn't check Freeview without getting out of bed.

MA

Markymark 20 May 2012 2:23pm

David posted:

Markymark posted:

Steve in Pudsey posted:

If they were testing DTT RBS, why would they put the cue dot on the DTH satellite feeds?

Ah, sorry, I see now. I'd assumed the BBC 1 SE was DTT, but Scotland was D-Sat ?

To be clear, I was watching both BBC One SE and BBC One Scotland on Sky (SD). I couldn't check Freeview without getting out of bed.

Then it's unlikely to be an RBS thing, more likely DR.

NG

noggin Founding member 20 May 2012 2:29pm

Aren't there also Arqiva DSat backup feeds (not on Astra 2 - and SD MPEG4) for other eventualities?

http://en.kingofsat.net/tp.php?tp=1524 Here they are - they're on Intelsat 907 at 27.5W

JA

james 20 May 2012 4:27pm

The old 'BBC ONE' logo showed up on BBC One before Points of View, advertising the Chelsea Flower Show. Really shocking how it's still be used over 5 years after it was decommissioned.

VM

VMPhil 20 May 2012 5:15pm

james posted:

The old 'BBC ONE' logo showed up on BBC One before Points of View, advertising the Chelsea Flower Show. Really shocking how it's still be used over 5 years after it was decommissioned.

Using the same graphics and music as from previous years, and a pink and white BBC Two logo to boot.

JO

Jonny 20 May 2012 6:23pm

Ah, you see trails such as this expose the problem with the current branding system: the lack of a template to cross-promote nicely.

Because channel pres and logo styles now vary to great extents, plonking a teal box on a circular endboard or worse a BBC One logo on a Two, er, thing, is out of the question. So we have half-baked/outdated boxes and random styles that result from no consistent style being available.

That old Chelsea Flower Show trail was originally designed for a rather nice dark pink '07-style Two endboard, iirc, which explains why it looks so awful now, with nasty drop shadows as a compromise in the BBC2 text format and incongruous channel badges.

An adapted version of the "BBC Now" menu design for such situations would be a neat solution...

Last edited by Jonny on 20 May 2012 6:36pm

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VMPhil 20 May 2012 6:30pm

Jonny posted:

Ah, you see trails such as this expose the problem with the current branding system: the lack of a template to cross-promote nicely.

Because channel pres and logo styles now vary to great extents, plonking a teal box on a circular endboard or worse a BBC One logo on a Two, er, thing, is out of the question. So we have half-baked/outdated boxes and random styles that result from no consistent style being available.

That old Chelsea Flower Show trail was originally designed for a rather nice reuben red '07-style Two endboard, iirc, which explains why it looks so awful now, with nasty drop shadows as a compromise in the BBC2 text format and incongruous channel badges.

An adapted version of the "BBC Now" menu design for such situations would be a neat solution...

And you yourself showed how a uniformed brand like the 1997 branding would look on the exact same trail:

I'm not saying we have to go back to the 1997 style, but yes a uniformed brand across BBC TV would be nice.

WP

WillPS 20 May 2012 7:21pm

VirginMediaPhil posted:

Jonny posted:

Ah, you see trails such as this expose the problem with the current branding system: the lack of a template to cross-promote nicely.

Because channel pres and logo styles now vary to great extents, plonking a teal box on a circular endboard or worse a BBC One logo on a Two, er, thing, is out of the question. So we have half-baked/outdated boxes and random styles that result from no consistent style being available.

That old Chelsea Flower Show trail was originally designed for a rather nice reuben red '07-style Two endboard, iirc, which explains why it looks so awful now, with nasty drop shadows as a compromise in the BBC2 text format and incongruous channel badges.

An adapted version of the "BBC Now" menu design for such situations would be a neat solution...

And you yourself showed how a uniformed brand like the 1997 branding would look on the exact same trail:

I'm not saying we have to go back to the 1997 style, but yes a uniformed brand across BBC TV would be nice.

How lovely that junction is, lovely and consistent all the way though.

:-(

A former member 2 June 2012 1:06pm

Just a note of interest that BBC ONE HD is now broadcasting in 1920x1080 rather than 1440x1080 on Freeview this weekend.

DA

davidhorman 2 June 2012 5:38pm

Andrew Wood posted:

Just a note of interest that BBC ONE HD is now broadcasting in 1920x1080 rather than 1440x1080 on Freeview this weekend.

Is there something in 3D coming up?

David

RO

Ronant 2 June 2012 5:55pm

Is the big summer promo making its debut this weekend do we know?
EDIT: Answer is yes - here it is http://t.co/9RduqSiP

Last edited by Ronant on 2 June 2012 6:16pm

DB

dbl 2 June 2012 6:03pm

Andrew Wood posted:

Just a note of interest that BBC ONE HD is now broadcasting in 1920x1080 rather than 1440x1080 on Freeview this weekend.

BBC HD, ITV1 HD, 4HD all at 1920x1080 as well.

(May 2009)