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David posted:

I just saw the explanation from Breakfast of the opting problems on Thursday. It was probably a very confusing and/or meaningless announcement for a lot of viewers. It sounded like they just read out an internal email and so ended up using words like 'opting' on air which is not something that most viewers are going to be that familiar with in this context. Also, they didn't use the correct region names. Lots of viewers will know which region they are in or at least what their regional news is called, let's say South East [Today] or [Look] East, but fewer will know that they are in the 'Tunbridge Wells' or 'Cambridge' regions especially when they live nowhere near the named town or city. Anyway, this problem only seemed to affect Freeview which wasn't mentioned on air.

Step away from the internet / geek mindset a minute. That was actually quite funny- they said there was a problem and explained it using the information they'd got but in a tongue in cheek, self mocking way. Nobody outside of forums like this would have cared about the regions being referred to incorrectly (internally they are referred by those towns / cities used), viewers would have heard there was a problem and they might get the 'wrong' regional news and laughed at the way they'd explained it. I'm guessing that the way they used a term like 'opt outs' in that context would have meant viewers would have got what they were referring to.

Very well done to the Breakfast team.
DA
davidhorman
David posted:
In other news, I notice the big one out of Outnumbered (not Hugh Dennis, the boy) [...] was dancing with Tracy Beaker who as a former child star now in her mid 30s,

23-year-old Tracy Beaker star Dani Harmer would be delighted to read that.
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seemed to be the perfect partner to help him break away from the child roles that he has so far been typecast in. This all seemed to be coming together to form the ideal combination to catapult him from child star to fully grown up boy man actor, someone who The Inbetweeners would be happy to be seen with.

Are you his agent or his stalker?

David
Last edited by davidhorman on 4 March 2012 1:21pm
PC
Paul Clark
AxG posted:
So this year will mark 6 years of the current BBC One look, but yet that blasted 'BBC ONE' box logo still crops up from time to time, yesterday being used on a Sport promo after Final Score. Rolling Eyes


It's certainly an issue that needs to be looked at in the next rebrand if it can be. In an ideal world it'd be like 1997 and everything could shift at once with logos that sit side-by-side and have a common format, but I don't see this happening, particularly in the current climate - it could be here for quite some time.

The music change that resulted from BBC1's ident edits has continued to leave the present set without an appropriate choice for more sombre announcements.
WA
watchingtv
Paul Clark posted:
The music change that resulted from BBC1's ident edits has continued to leave the present set without an appropriate choice for more sombre announcements.


The helicopter ident is probably the only candidate?
PC
Paul Clark
watchingtv posted:
Paul Clark posted:
The music change that resulted from BBC1's ident edits has continued to leave the present set without an appropriate choice for more sombre announcements.


The helicopter ident is probably the only candidate?


That's what I was referring to - it used to be the sombre ident, back when it used the original music. But with the current edits, the soundtrack was replaced by a much more upbeat piece, and there have been no other idents which are sombre enough (or at least, as sombre as it was) to take up the role it used to occupy.
PC
Paul Clark
This definitely hasn't strayed wildly off-topic in any way whatsoever.

To clarify re: Helicopter - BBC1 West here are still using the original for Inside Out and I'd imagine some of the other regions are too. But officially at least, it went with the advent of the edits...
DA
David
UKnews posted:
Nobody outside of forums like this would have cared about the regions being referred to incorrectly (internally they are referred by those towns / cities used)


What about people who only know the regions by the correct names? They might have cared. Even as a member of TV Forum, I could probably name all of the English regions but I'd finder it harder to tell you what town or cities they are based in. I expect most viewers wouldn't know or care what town or city their region is based in. I suspected the regions are referred to by town or city names internally, that is why I mentioned that it sounded like Bill Turnbull was reading out an internal email, never meant for viewers ears.
AS
Asa Admin
David posted:
I suspected the regions are referred to by town or city names internally, that is why I mentioned that it sounded like Bill Turnbull was reading out an internal email, never meant for viewers ears.

Maybe it was, but I doubt it was ever meant as some honourable public service announcement, just a chance to have a laugh at a bit of a cockup. Even if viewers didn't understand the region references they'd have got the gist that 'something was wrong' and was being worked on.
MA
Markymark
Asa posted:
David posted:
I suspected the regions are referred to by town or city names internally, that is why I mentioned that it sounded like Bill Turnbull was reading out an internal email, never meant for viewers ears.

Maybe it was, but I doubt it was ever meant as some honourable public service announcement, just a chance to have a laugh at a bit of a cockup. Even if viewers didn't understand the region references they'd have got the gist that 'something was wrong' and was being worked on.


It was a damn sight more technical than some of Digital UK's recent DSO publicity statements.

Top marks IMHO
PE
Pete Founding member
davidhorman posted:
David posted:
In other news, I notice the big one out of Outnumbered (not Hugh Dennis, the boy) [...] was dancing with Tracy Beaker who as a former child star now in her mid 30s,

23-year-old Tracy Beaker star Dani Harmer would be delighted to read that.



I actually had to double check her age myself to be fair Razz
ST
Stuart
UKnews posted:
Step away from the internet/geek mindset a minute. That was actually quite funny- they said there was a problem and explained it using the information they'd got but in a tongue in cheek, self mocking way. Nobody outside of forums like this would have cared about the regions being referred to incorrectly (internally they are referred by those towns / cities used), viewers would have heard there was a problem and they might get the 'wrong' regional news and laughed at the way they'd explained it. I'm guessing that the way they used a term like 'opt outs' in that context would have meant viewers would have got what they were referring to.

Very well done to the Breakfast team.

Well said, UKnews.

I didn't see any of this as I had a day off on Thursday: but from the clips on here they seem to have handled it very well.

Bill Turnbull's reading of the 'official e-mail' was humorous, as was Sian Willams' retort as to which region people were going to receive as a default service. Wink

What would people have preferred: the same "no regional service yet" sort of screen we get on BBC One HD during the opts? Shocked
FC
FishCalledEric
Are we going to get BBC One HD regions? (even if it's just Wales, Scotland and NI)

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