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DT
DTV
You say this a lot, but I don't think it's true. When something is updated, not everyone thinks solely of the cost. I think branding being up to date is perfectly acceptable and, short of the usual Daily Mail outrage, most people wouldn't care, including the *evil tories wooooooo*.

The Daily Mail would. Sky News would. The Telegraph would. Every Tory sympathising, right-wing newspaper will talk about it, and the cost. The BBC Is not in a position to risk any adverse publicity which would either make it look like it is wasting money, or trying to compete against commercial rivals.


The sad thing is this era of branding has gone through some of the lowest points of the BBC in recent years, such as the accusations over rigged phone ins and the Jimmy Saville scandal. This is the one time where the BBC really needs to freshen up but it just can't.


How would a new logo have made the Jimmy Saville scandal any better? The BBC's on air identity is not only not correlated but a completely different department to the administrative cock-up of deciding to rig phone ins and the widespread culture of indecency at the top in the 1970s and the subsequent editorial misjudgments of BBC Newsnight. Both of which the BBC has now surpassed with another crisis - being roundly f*cked by the government. The BBC's barely coping financially as it is, it doesn't have the cash to create a new visual identity for some or all of it's channels especially not given it'll probably cost the budget of several BBC World Service languages. The only thing I want the Beeb to change the BBC One logo to is a caption slide saying 'F*ck off Mr. Whittingdale and give us our money and independence back so we can actually inform, educate and entertain rather than slowly preparing ourselves for the final closedown.'
PF
PFML84
DTV posted:
The only thing I want the Beeb to change the BBC One logo to is a caption slide saying 'F*ck off Mr. Whittingdale and give us our money and independence back so we can actually inform, educate and entertain rather than slowly preparing ourselves for the final closedown.'


"BBC ONE F*ck off Mr. Whittingdale and give us our money and independence back so we can actually inform, educate and entertain rather than slowly preparing ourselves for the final closedown Northern Ireland" would look the best out of all the regions too, I bet. And it will be centralised and not confined to a box.
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MD
mdtauk
You say this a lot, but I don't think it's true. When something is updated, not everyone thinks solely of the cost. I think branding being up to date is perfectly acceptable and, short of the usual Daily Mail outrage, most people wouldn't care, including the *evil tories wooooooo*.

The Daily Mail would. Sky News would. The Telegraph would. Every Tory sympathising, right-wing newspaper will talk about it, and the cost. The BBC Is not in a position to risk any adverse publicity which would either make it look like it is wasting money, or trying to compete against commercial rivals.


The sad thing is this era of branding has gone through some of the lowest points of the BBC in recent years, such as the accusations over rigged phone ins and the Jimmy Saville scandal. This is the one time where the BBC really needs to freshen up but it just can't.

Branding would not eradicate the negative press. But the BBC has been left rather shy and limp - being beaten down by Sky, ITV, the Government, etc.

Once times are better, and we have a less hostile government, then the BBC needs to re-find it's confidence. Be proud, and strong (but not arrogant) and give itself a fresh schedule, and new bold and exciting programming, and then rebrand the channels to focus on the content which will exist online as well as on-air
MF
MatthewFirth
I still can't wait for this any longer. Even if they are going through troubled times, they can still solve things one at a time. Right now rebranding may be crucial.
BR
Brekkie
The Daily Mail would. Sky News would. The Telegraph would. Every Tory sympathising, right-wing newspaper will talk about it, and the cost. The BBC Is not in a position to risk any adverse publicity which would either make it look like it is wasting money, or trying to compete against commercial rivals.


The sad thing is this era of branding has gone through some of the lowest points of the BBC in recent years, such as the accusations over rigged phone ins and the Jimmy Saville scandal. This is the one time where the BBC really needs to freshen up but it just can't.

Branding would not eradicate the negative press. But the BBC has been left rather shy and limp - being beaten down by Sky, ITV, the Government, etc.

Once times are better, and we have a less hostile government, then the BBC needs to re-find it's confidence. Be proud, and strong (but not arrogant) and give itself a fresh schedule, and new bold and exciting programming, and then rebrand the channels to focus on the content which will exist online as well as on-air


It's kind of damned if it does, damned if it doesn't, but it really can't afford to wait that long. A rebrand is about the BBC looking to the future rather the wallowing in it's past and it's now gone way beyond the point where it's about the channels looking nice. In the context of programming to even a multi-million pound rebrand isn't that expensive, while it's not like the BBC doesn't have a marketing budget either . They're constantly making very nice ads for BBC Radio especially which are used for a few weeks then dropped.
WO
Worzel
The last big revamp of any BBC TV service was BBC News and the News channel in 2008 (not accounting for the NBH move and tweaks in 2013).

BBC One and Two are long overdue even a refresh or some new idents added to their current respective packages. What I can't understand is why they seem happy to create new Christmas idents year after year with a limited shelf life (and bring in a brand agency in 2015) but don't seem to add any new idents to the current sets for the other 330 odd days in the process.

It is almost like the BBC is stuck in a timewarp of the 1990s and has never really moved on. You can't blame all this on DQF, licence fee freezes or a conservative government. Creativity, good ideas and sourcing new branding doesn't cost millions of pounds.

Oh, and how they can justify a revamp of BBC Three that's soon moving online is anyone's guess. No doubt the backlash about the new logo will cause a 'Oh, we better not revamp BBC One or Two as people may not like what we do' reaction, rather than thinking a little deeper as to why people have come to that conclusion.
Last edited by Worzel on 4 January 2016 9:06pm - 3 times in total
IS
Inspector Sands
Oh, and how they can justify a revamp of BBC Three that's soon moving online is anyone's guess.

If the can't introduce a new logo when a channel moves to an entirely new way of distribution when can they?... a new logo is a miniscule change in comparison
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 4 January 2016 11:08pm
MD
mdtauk
Oh, and how they can justify a revamp of BBC Three that's soon moving online is anyone's guess.

If the can't introduce a new logo when a channel moves to an entirely new way of distribution when can they?... a new logo a miniscule change in comparison

The arguably needed to decide on an image for the channel that would stand on it's own and targeted to the online audience they need to attract to justify it's new existence, rather than it being axed altogether.
SA
samuel_berndt
Maybe they should REVAMP instead of REPLACE. Take the circles motif, make it new again! I mean, on the 7th of October of this/next year, they'll be 10! Make something new...

I completely agree, the BBC One Circle Idents need refreshing, 10 years is too long and I really had hope that this new year, they would do something new... but again im disappointed.
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MA
Maaixuew


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A former member
Surprised to see a brand new sting on BBC ONE vacuuming up the pine needles. Why they didn't use last year's I can't fathom.
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A former member
Surprised to see a brand new sting on BBC ONE vacuuming up the pine needles. Why they didn't use last year's I can't fathom.


Scotland seem stick in its ways and are not using that sting, instead sticking to the Ice Skater. I said this last year and I say it again here someone in Glasgow loves that sting. Is the Network used the skater?

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