JO
I think we have to trust George12345 on this one. Anyway it wouldn't be the first time a Friday launch has happened. The pres packages of 2000 and 2001 launched on a Friday, albeit not as early as December 4th.
Christmas is, for many, a different beast these days. Idents and presentation have become far removed from clunky mechanical "symbols" and are elaborate creations all by themselves. Most broadcasters start churning out Christmas pres from the beginning of December nowadays, simply because we have somehow inadvertently extended the season to the extreme that Christmas is now a month long festival rather than the last week of the year. I remember fondly the excitement and anticipation of watching out for the very first Christmas trail and the recollections I have of observing the unveiling of that year's BBC1 Christmas symbol, be it a clunky duo of Robins, three weird snowpeople with cracker, a stop start snowflake or the more obscure CHRISTMAS stylised ident with the 1 being a candle. Then witnessing the more creative idents of the nineties and deciding that 1997 and 1998 were two of my favourites! I think starting the idents early is a fitting and appropriate way of adapting to the modern world, and the BBC at least get value for money out of them nowadays too.
So you are saying Chritmas should be governed by 'big stores' adverts?
My guess was based on previous years. What evidence do you have for it being on Friday instead of Saturday?
I think we have to trust George12345 on this one. Anyway it wouldn't be the first time a Friday launch has happened. The pres packages of 2000 and 2001 launched on a Friday, albeit not as early as December 4th.
Christmas is, for many, a different beast these days. Idents and presentation have become far removed from clunky mechanical "symbols" and are elaborate creations all by themselves. Most broadcasters start churning out Christmas pres from the beginning of December nowadays, simply because we have somehow inadvertently extended the season to the extreme that Christmas is now a month long festival rather than the last week of the year. I remember fondly the excitement and anticipation of watching out for the very first Christmas trail and the recollections I have of observing the unveiling of that year's BBC1 Christmas symbol, be it a clunky duo of Robins, three weird snowpeople with cracker, a stop start snowflake or the more obscure CHRISTMAS stylised ident with the 1 being a candle. Then witnessing the more creative idents of the nineties and deciding that 1997 and 1998 were two of my favourites! I think starting the idents early is a fitting and appropriate way of adapting to the modern world, and the BBC at least get value for money out of them nowadays too.
So you are saying Chritmas should be governed by 'big stores' adverts?
WI
Here's an interesting link regarding 2015's Christmas BBC1 campaign. It provides information that an agency won the contract to create BBC1's 2015 on-line presence back in February! This suggests that a new BBC1 ident is indeed a very probable likelihood. Surely an on screen appearance would need to match the online look?
http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/bbc-one-hunts-agency-christmas-social-campaign/1361147
http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/bbc-one-hunts-agency-christmas-social-campaign/1361147
Last edited by Wicko on 25 November 2015 5:25pm
AR
Interesting, thanks for sharing Wicko.
It's amazing how much planning goes into channel idents and branding these days. The year I was born (1977), all they had to do was stick a revolving Christmas pudding in front of a curved mirror. I bet that didn't take anywhere near as much planning and still looked lovely.
Here's an interesting link regarding 2015's Christmas BBC1 campaign. It provides information that an agency won the contract to create BBC1's 2015 on-line presence back in February! This suggests that a new BBC1 ident is indeed a very probable likelihood. Surely an on screen appearance would need to match the online look?
http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/bbc-one-hunts-agency-christmas-social-campaign/1361147
http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/bbc-one-hunts-agency-christmas-social-campaign/1361147
Interesting, thanks for sharing Wicko.
It's amazing how much planning goes into channel idents and branding these days. The year I was born (1977), all they had to do was stick a revolving Christmas pudding in front of a curved mirror. I bet that didn't take anywhere near as much planning and still looked lovely.
Last edited by Argybargy on 26 November 2015 10:29am
JA
I think we have to trust George12345 on this one. Anyway it wouldn't be the first time a Friday launch has happened. The pres packages of 2000 and 2001 launched on a Friday, albeit not as early as December 4th.
Turns out we were both wrong. At least now we know George didn't know any more than I did.
My guess was based on previous years. What evidence do you have for it being on Friday instead of Saturday?
I think we have to trust George12345 on this one. Anyway it wouldn't be the first time a Friday launch has happened. The pres packages of 2000 and 2001 launched on a Friday, albeit not as early as December 4th.
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A former member
Thank you very much. 
The only sting I never caught was one in the rubber dingy. Mind you Im sure Scotland only used it once around 8.45pm between lotto and casualty on 4th July.
I don't believe there will be any new strings expect we might see the Scottish on again next Monday.
The only sting I never caught was one in the rubber dingy. Mind you Im sure Scotland only used it once around 8.45pm between lotto and casualty on 4th July.
I don't believe there will be any new strings expect we might see the Scottish on again next Monday.
Just seen the Dr Who sting play out before Citizen Khan at 00:45 on BBC One Scotland! Very random.
I wonder if there will be a Saint Andrew's sting today - after all England, Wales and Ireland all have had theirs...?
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A former member
Scotland is using the Scottish sting. but not the menu. Is anyone else using it? it seems the network isnt
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A former member
One has to wonder if this is pay back for not using St George day sting.
JK
I very much doubt that it is.
One has to wonder if this is pay back for not using St George day sting.
I very much doubt that it is.