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It was strange considering the tennis finished at the perfect time to allow a recap, lottery results show and then back on schedule with Casualty.

Thought they would have had a performance from the guest on the lottery which would have probably extended it long enough for Casualty not to have to start early.

Why not trim the length of both TOS and EE, (thus saving money) and give them their advertised start times ?
Of course the 15x Regional News shows would need to be extended in length by 2 mins, ah, hang on, I've just answered by own question

They could hardly get a performance ready with just minutes notice. The best they could have done to fill time was probably draw every Lotto Raffle number live - think it's still 100 at the moment.

Depends if the performance scheduled was live or not. They're often pre-recorded.

Sorry to come on very late to this discussion. ISTR that it was discussed in previous years that the BBC only have one pres truck at Wimbledon that is switched into/out of the main match feed. Is that still the case? In that case, it would be impossible for both the ending of the live coverage and the beginning of the highlights show to be on air at the same time? Is that correct, or am I making that up?

I assumed that was why Wimbledon 2Day began 5 minutes late - otherwise, there was no need to stick a Coast repeat in for 5 minutes - they could have left the Murray match edit to the end (as they did anyway) and kicked off with other packages.

So, it might be the case that the Beeb didn't want to delay Wimbledon 2Day for more than 5 minutes, hence the rushing off air on BBC One, so that the highlights could begin on BBC Two?

This is all just speculation - could somebody who actually has some knowledge let me know if I am spouting complete bollocks?

Tennis sting has now started to appear on the others areas.

Well, yes, the lottery provided all they were expected to do, and as you say there was no way they could have done a performance if that wasn't planned. In fact when Gaby was signing off at about 8.45 I assumed that there was going to be a performance, but in fact there wasn't. That said, it would doubtless have been easy to get Gaby to fill a few minutes with a bit of aimless chat about the record and the lottery awards, they already had to change the script at the last minute when it stopped being part of Who Dares Wins. You could get another two minutes or so of chat and then another trailer or two would have filled the gap just fine. But if the lottery isn't asked, they can't do that, it seems.



But they're already on two channels at once for five hours a day, so surely they can work around that? If it was technically impossible to do the two shows at once then surely it was BBC2 that should have come on later, rather than BBC1 ending earlier, given BBC2 had already been improvising a schedule for two hours so another five minutes would seem less of a problem, and it didn't matter if they ran late because everything after it was a repeat.



Yes, and it's different in these cases because two minutes is really neither here nor there, especially on a programme like The One Show which nobody's recording anyway, viewers just drift into it. When it becomes five minutes, and for shows that people are specifically tuning in for, it's wrong.

The One Show was only billed at 6.55 for its original pilot series in 2006, and that was different because the regional news programmes linked into it, and then they came back at 7.25 for an extra bulletin. And it actually did start at 6.55.

What I was driving at in my previous post was that (I don't think) presentation elements (i.e. Sue Barker coming in with round-ups, links, score updates, etc) are ever on BBC1 and 2 simultaneously. I distinctly remember noggin telling us a number of years ago that, rather than having two pres trucks to deal with BBC1 and 2, there is just the one controlling the whole of the BBC presentation operation and this is switched into and out of circuit from the main match feed. Thus it is impossible for BBC presentation elements (rather than the court feed) to be shown on BBC1 and 2 simultaneously.

At this point, can I please request that anybody who actually knows about this situation (unlike me, who is relying on memory of a post from a number of years ago and barely a layman's understanding of all this) confirms or corrects my assertion?

I'd agree with you that it was probably more sensible for the BBC1 coverage to run until 8.40, with the highlights starting at that point on BBC2. But I must be honest, when I looked across the schedules to see what was going on, I instantly thought that the highlights were being delayed to allow the BBC1 coverage to get off-air - an additional balancing act for the schedulers.

Certainly seems the case as the Gasquet Kyrgios match finished on BBC2 while Sue was on court introducing Andy Murray on BBC1 leaving John Inverdale to fill a good few minutes over shots of Court no. 2 until Sue could get back to presentation.

What I meant was that I thought they would have had a performance scheduled. They normally do when they have a guest. Though maybe that's only if the lottery results is a standalone programme.

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I think they did have one during Who Dares Wins the other week but I suppose it would probably be a bit complicated to do when they have a quiz because the quizzes are recorded to run a certain length leaving X minutes for the lottery draws and whatever surrounds them.

But in this case, of course, the lottery draws were planned as part of Who Dares Wins and they simply did what they would have done during Who Dares Wins, only all in one go. It wouldn't have lasted any longer if there'd been a performance as they'd have just done less chat.

Scottish Open starts tomorrow so Scotland might start using the Golf Sting, just in case anyone cares.