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Justin
FrancisIdents posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
What got me was the shorter "revised" versions feel even cheaper and tackier than the originals.

The channel refreshes in 2009 were easily the most pointless decisions to come from the BBC, ranging from the brutal ident cuts on BBC1 to the complete annihilation of BBC2's image (but that's a subject for a different thread)


The very concept of the short idents just doesn't work. The special idents back in January weren't short, neither were the Christmas idents that preceded it. What we've had for the last six years just looks infuriatingly and unnecessarily cheap.

2009 was a generally bad year for TV pres in general. The longer circles went apparently because of how poorly timed they were placed by continuity and how the logo animated, then again though Channel 4 has long idents and they usually nail it.
Last edited by Justin on 22 June 2015 8:28am
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chris
Justin posted:
FrancisIdents posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
What got me was the shorter "revised" versions feel even cheaper and tackier than the originals.

The channel refreshes in 2009 were easily the most pointless decisions to come from the BBC, ranging from the brutal ident cuts on BBC1 to the complete annihilation of BBC2's image (but that's a subject for a different thread)


The very concept of the short idents just doesn't work. The special idents back in January weren't short, neither were the Christmas idents that preceded it. What we've had for the last six years just looks infuriatingly and unnecessarily cheap.

2009 was a generally bad year for TV pres in general. The longer circles went apparently because of how poorly timed they were placed by continuity and how the logo animated, then again though Channel 4 has long idents and they usually nail it.


Much less complicated operation for Channel 4. BBC One has nations and regions variations, plus more live programming, with certain timings and junctions to be met.
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Brekkie
They also have no ads. All those excuses are just excuses.
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denton
The long versions of the BBC 1 idents (and lack of many short versions) caused difficulties in junctions where the ident was traditionally the elastic band.... which would stretch or contract to cope with those "excuses" (like over/under running programmes, clock starts to be met, not TXing dramas with strong language before the watershed, simulcast points, etc). No matter how well planned, decisions as to how to mitigate those kind of "excuses" have to be taken mid junction. Lack of short idents resulted in junctions looking rather messy at times, through no fault of the people transmitting the junctions.
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SOL
Fair enough. So why not have short idents as well, from the original bunch? We've had the same, boring idents for 6 years now.
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Whataday Founding member
chris posted:
Justin posted:
FrancisIdents posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
What got me was the shorter "revised" versions feel even cheaper and tackier than the originals.

The channel refreshes in 2009 were easily the most pointless decisions to come from the BBC, ranging from the brutal ident cuts on BBC1 to the complete annihilation of BBC2's image (but that's a subject for a different thread)


The very concept of the short idents just doesn't work. The special idents back in January weren't short, neither were the Christmas idents that preceded it. What we've had for the last six years just looks infuriatingly and unnecessarily cheap.

2009 was a generally bad year for TV pres in general. The longer circles went apparently because of how poorly timed they were placed by continuity and how the logo animated, then again though Channel 4 has long idents and they usually nail it.


Much less complicated operation for Channel 4. BBC One has nations and regions variations, plus more live programming, with certain timings and junctions to be met.


That's not really a good excuse, but it is a lot easier to time the Channel 4 idents, as although they are long, the form up of the logo is somewhere in the middle of the ident, rather than at the end, so it doesn't matter if the end gets cut off.
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fanoftv
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there short versions of the original idents that began at the logo form up for short intros into programmes?
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FrancisIdents
fanoftv posted:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there short versions of the original idents that began at the logo form up for short intros into programmes?

They had significantly shortened versions, I don't remember there ever being versions quite that short though.

Here's short Helicopter, click to 1:14 to see it. There's probably countless other examples of these edits on YouTube.
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NorthTonight
School bell sting before Pointless in Scotland. Probably to signify the summer holidays which begin this or next week depending on where you live in Scotland.
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A former member
I expect that sting to be used again for the next 7 days ( maybe not all the time) Note: Schools which finished this week, will only get a week off in October, while schools which finish next week will get two weeks off, hence the reason for the gap. No Megamag this year Wink

I do expect a Tennis sting... if you can guess why?
Last edited by A former member on 26 June 2015 7:52pm
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NorthTonight
623058 posted:
I expect that sting to be used again for the next 7 days ( maybe not all the time) Note: Schools which finished this week, will only get a week off in October, while schools which finish next week will get two weeks off, hence the reason for the gap. No Megamag this year Wink

I do expect a Tennis sting... if you can guess why?


That's not accurate about the school holidays across Scotland for October, there's a cycle where every so often schools get 7 weeks in order for them not to be going back too early in August. Trust me I'm a teacher 😉
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A former member
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