BBC NI Presentation

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Steve D 18 September 2005 8:23pm

Steve in Pudsey posted:

On a slight tangent, how do the headlines in the news work in the nations? Does pres opt to London and then to the local studio for their contribution or does pres cut up the local studio who have a feed of network on their desk?

In Wales all news opts are executed by presentation including the headline and trail opts out of the One, Six and (heads only) the Ten, and the trail in the Politics Show.

I'm not sure that this is the case in the other nations though, as of course it could be done as a soft opt with pres taking a feed of network through the studio, provided that the studio will pass embedded subtitles.

BM

The Braid man 18 September 2005 9:17pm

The easiest way its done in Northern Ireland is that for the inital 30 seconds of the 1/6/10 o'clock news, the N/W feed comes through the local news gallery, THEY opt themselves for local headlines, and then its back to N/W for the rest of the national news - all of which is overseen by presentation of course.

The Welsh method can also be used, but we prefer the other.

DE

denton 18 September 2005 9:38pm

The Braid man posted:

The easiest way its done in Northern Ireland is that for the inital 30 seconds of the 1/6/10 o'clock news, the N/W feed comes through the local news gallery, THEY opt themselves for local headlines, and then its back to N/W for the rest of the national news - all of which is overseen by presentation of course.

The Welsh method can also be used, but we prefer the other.

Not all of us.

Some prefer to join network News using the dedicated BBC 1 Clean Feed, therefore avoiding any danger of glimpsing any network presentation at the top of the programme; then cutting across to local studio output when the opt is called by the N6 director. Of course no matter which method is adopted, the Newsline Headlines event and the subsequent network News event both still need to pass through the automation to trigger the insertion and removal of the local subtitles.

DE

denton 18 September 2005 9:58pm

The TV Room posted:

I'm seeing more and more errors creeping into junctions on BBC NI of late. Another monumental one just now were we had what seemed like 20 secs or more of BBC London News instead of BBC Newsline. BBC London News titles are not an uncommon sight on BBC NI but this seemed to be a more lengthy serving than usual.

Just before midday, about 10 secs of black during a junction followed by one second of a Network trail before a locally branded version of the same trail cut in. If the black originated from London, why the heck are BBC NI relying on London for sections of junctions? Why don't they cover the entire junction themselves. Surely it isn't that difficult to acquire trails from London (rebrand them if necessary) and run the whole junction from Belfast?

The ideal situation would be to have all material available on local servers for playout. I didn't see the junction in question and I don't know who was on duty; however trails for live programmes, such as Match of the Day, Crimewatch UK, Question Time, etc... may not reside even on Broadcast Centre servers. These are played out from the studio / scanner / edit suite by the programme's production team. In this case the trail may have to be transmitted in the Nations by cutting in and out of the dirty feed of network (although, if the effort is made, sometimes it is possible to record the trail on to local server by watching a clean feed of the studio while they are making the trail).

Some trails are delivered for playout just minutes before their first scheduled transmission slot (you would be surprised how many). In this case there is often not enough time to get a playout from London. However most times every effort would be made to get a copy of the trail. In some cases this can be taking place in Belfast with less than 3 minutes to transmission!

DE

denton 18 September 2005 10:01pm

The TV Room posted:

In order that I don't send out the wrong impression, I should point out that the vast majority of junctions on BBC NI are quite slick and certainly put their London counterparts to shame. As with most organisations though, there are one or two weak links in the chain.

Agreed

BM

The Braid man 19 September 2005 12:11am

denton posted:

The Braid man posted:

The easiest way its done in Northern Ireland is that for the inital 30 seconds of the 1/6/10 o'clock news, the N/W feed comes through the local news gallery, THEY opt themselves for local headlines, and then its back to N/W for the rest of the national news - all of which is overseen by presentation of course.

The Welsh method can also be used, but we prefer the other.

Not all of us.

Sorry, I prefer the other.

DE

denton 19 September 2005 2:24am

The Braid man posted:

denton posted:

The Braid man posted:

The easiest way its done in Northern Ireland is that for the inital 30 seconds of the 1/6/10 o'clock news, the N/W feed comes through the local news gallery, THEY opt themselves for local headlines, and then its back to N/W for the rest of the national news - all of which is overseen by presentation of course.

The Welsh method can also be used, but we prefer the other.

Not all of us.

Sorry, I prefer the other.

I respect your opinion.

Just don't forget to lead sound by the correct amount of frames. We don't want to miss the opening 'bong' now, do we.