BBC News thread

Not quite. They used the generic BBC News ident until World News got its version. The end of the joint broadcasts was the generic BBC News ident with the news 24 shorter opening titles music. It was a real mish mash until all 3 main tv news studios were up and running in the new look.

Has anyone got any captures of this.

I noticed this morning that while on the phone to an American Radio correspondant in London about the downing of the Helicopter, News 24 were showing live pictures from the scene. But instead of the usual red 'LIVE' aston by the clock they had 'Live Pictures' put in a brown box just below the 'BBC News 24' dog.

Have they done this before is this possible fiddling for a new way of using astons when they relaunch in a month.

I think its more to distinguish between the voice being live and the pictures being live. The usual LIVE dog could imply that the voice on the phone was live, and not the pictures.

Yes, I did think that. I hope News 24 don't go too OTT with 'LIVE' graphics. Do you remember the orange 'LIVE' aston they used for 'coming up' events. I know this confused lots of people, thick or not, lol.

However today they did specify it as 'Live Pictures' so I don't think you can get clearer than that.

It reminds me of the old style News 24 astos, used in 2000 - when News24 interupted BBC One for breaking news, for the first time ever - the concorde crash.

They had a big red BREAKING NEWS dog in the top right hand corner i think it was.

I hope this time around (the 4th change if you include the slight cosmetic change to the set some time ago), Popescu can make something of N24. Ever since N24 was launched its just been soooo bland and boring. Yes the journalism is good and all but presentation wise its pathetic! The BBC fails to take risks with its news presentation, try new things out, I mean its a 'rolling news service' but just a continuous output of news every hour is just poor. Why can't they divide the day up with different shows... what would be a good idea is to take the FIVELIVE format.
Now, the US news networks do have the right idea, take FNC, yeah I know they stink (neocon ideals and the like), but they know how to present TV news; colour, graphics, TV anchors that don't say 'ERRR' all the time (are you listening Jane Hill!) good set design etc... what they lack in good journalism they make up for in presentational style.
As I said before, BBCNEWS do not take risks/chances, whether its because of the political classes that oversee them or the fact that they want to preserve some sort of Radio4/Home Service traditionalism I don't know. An when they do get it right they don't persevere with it, take for example Breakfast News. BBCNEWS has a winning combination of Jeremy Bowen and Sophie R and what happened, it lasted only 2 years!
There is no sparkle, no personality, no chemistry at N24, its cold, unwelcoming, bland, straightfaced and at times downright ameturish. Its heavy reliance on digital technology is often its downfall, eg. business news share prices not appearing (how many times have i heard "techical problems mean that we cannot bring share prices to you..."), on screen clocks coming and going, VT feeds not appearing, astons not in sinc with people, the list is endless. I my sad little world I sit there shouting at the TV trying to tell them that this has happened, this has gone wrong, this is out of sinc, stop saying errr, the list is endless: do the people in the gallery actually watch the live feed and see all these things happening or is N24 a training ground for new gallery staff?
With all the money that the BBC 'lavishes' on N24 you would think that it would be the best news channel around. I get so annoyed when SkyNews (bless 'em) are always there, first with everything, in fact my latest 'game' is to see how long it takes for N24 to catch up. Another thing that does my head in is the fact that when an important news story has just broken N24 always find time to break for some sport or a bit of weather... I mean, come on, this stuff is important, screw the weather and the sport, this is NEWWWS!
Anyway, sorry for my rant but this is how it looks on this side of the tube, pretty damn awfull. Come end of November Popescu had better have done something about it and not just a few cosmetic tweaks here and there... am I right or am I right?

m8 you are absolutely right, it is a channel run by 3 human beings and a robot called Columbus, and at times it tells!

Anyway we've got a revamp to look forward to!

Although I think some of what you are saying is a tad unfair, I do agree with a couple of points. Firstly the point about presentation - yes, the Jeremy and Sophie combination was only allowed to last for two years (although admittedly it was Jeremy and Sophie's decisions to move on - they weren't forced by BBC News).

More pertinent than that is the refusal of the BBC to give Bill & Sian the main Breakfast presenting job. This is the only true on screen chemistry on News 24 or BBC1 News (in my opinion), but the BBC are squandering it and refusing to use it to its full potential.



As for this, I think you are wrong - sport, and more particularly Weather, are very important to people, and it always annoys me when N24 take these things off in order to give us blanket coverage of stories.

Does the robot present too?

No - robots have more emotion

I'm glad someone agrees with me on the 'on screen chemistry' thing. You need this on a TV show, it is what holds a viewers attention. I agree, Bill and Sian have got it but its not exploited... it should be. Dermot and Natasha don't seem to have it.
Anyway, I'm getting off the point... when I said that when an important news item does break N24 always finds time to break for sport and weather what I meant was that these 'breaks' always seem at inconvient times. Yes I do agree that people need there Weather and sport but come on folks, a major breaking news story needs the airtime, it needs to develop, it needs to run and gather momentum (rolling news service) otherwise press the RED button. Sorry if I upset some people there, its just that I like my news to continue and not have Deaksy pop up with his latest weather front moving in from the Atlantic, I know its going to rain you told me 90 mins ago, what has changed in 90 minutes... Nothing, but the news has, a bit. By the way did I see Dan 'the man' Corbet back at N24 the other night doing the weather? Now that fella knows how to present the weather, its fun weather!
So a few people out there agree that N24 is a tad amaturish? Good, I'm glad i'm not the only one. Stuff does go wrong quite a lot of the time and its just plain embarrassing... SKYNEWS is smooth, hell, even ITVNC is pretty smooth, CNN is slick and FNC is slick as hell.
I tell you what... what I would like to see is the BBCSPORT presentation team having a crack at N24, BBCSPORT have always been good with its presentation as far back as i can remember, and i'm thinking back now to the Olympic Games of 84, yes 1984! Good graphics, sets, presentational style, good anchors, I mean look at the list, Des (who?), Harry Carpenter, Steve Ryder (the ultimate professional), David Vine; who from BBCNEWS can be compared to any of these over the past 20 years or so? errrrrrr... nope! Paxman (too political), Buerk (too... something), Sissons (I won't knock ol' Pete being a fellow scouser and true Red), will someone tell me who... it just can't be done! I'm going off at a complete tangent now (sorry).
Question... what do we as viewers want from N24?