GS
Chromakey isn't a tradmarked name.
The terms 'Blue Screen', 'Chroma Key' and 'CSO (Colour Separation Overlay)' are commonly used to describe the same process although the techniques differ slightly depending on their origin.
Gavin Scott
Founding member
Moz posted:
Probably because Chromakey is a trademark for a type of CSO.
It's like we all call hoovers hoovers and sellotape sellotape! Blue Peter (on the BBC) called sellotape 'sticky-backed plastic' for the same reasons.
It's like we all call hoovers hoovers and sellotape sellotape! Blue Peter (on the BBC) called sellotape 'sticky-backed plastic' for the same reasons.
Chromakey isn't a tradmarked name.
The terms 'Blue Screen', 'Chroma Key' and 'CSO (Colour Separation Overlay)' are commonly used to describe the same process although the techniques differ slightly depending on their origin.
GA
Blue Peter didn't call sellotape sticky-backed plastic, that is another thing, sellotape has always been called sticky tape.
Sticky backed plastic comes in big sheets.
Gareth
Gareth
Founding member
Moz posted:
Probably because Chromakey is a trademark for a type of CSO.
It's like we all call hoovers hoovers and sellotape sellotape! Blue Peter (on the BBC) called sellotape 'sticky-backed plastic' for the same reasons.
It's like we all call hoovers hoovers and sellotape sellotape! Blue Peter (on the BBC) called sellotape 'sticky-backed plastic' for the same reasons.
Blue Peter didn't call sellotape sticky-backed plastic, that is another thing, sellotape has always been called sticky tape.
Sticky backed plastic comes in big sheets.
Gareth
MO
Blue Peter didn't call sellotape sticky-backed plastic, that is another thing, sellotape has always been called sticky tape.
Sticky backed plastic comes in big sheets.
Gareth
Well they call it sticky backed plastic now. I saw them use what was defo sellotape the other day and the referred to it as s.b.p.
Gareth posted:
Moz posted:
Probably because Chromakey is a trademark for a type of CSO.
It's like we all call hoovers hoovers and sellotape sellotape! Blue Peter (on the BBC) called sellotape 'sticky-backed plastic' for the same reasons.
It's like we all call hoovers hoovers and sellotape sellotape! Blue Peter (on the BBC) called sellotape 'sticky-backed plastic' for the same reasons.
Blue Peter didn't call sellotape sticky-backed plastic, that is another thing, sellotape has always been called sticky tape.
Sticky backed plastic comes in big sheets.
Gareth
Well they call it sticky backed plastic now. I saw them use what was defo sellotape the other day and the referred to it as s.b.p.
SL
Does anyone know why Jane Hill's off? The channel isn't the same without her
Maybe the bright green/blue made her feel sick.
At first the set was pretty bad, but since they've made the changes to the lighting or whatever it's much better now. It's not as if it's permanent, there's less than 5 weeks to go (hopefully)
And IIRC, CSO was developed by the BBC. I faintly remember Peter Gibbs saying on that behind the scenes weather video saying so.
Moz posted:
Are there any viewing figures available for News 24 since CSO began? Have they fallen?
I must admit I've stopped watching as it's such a limited service they're offering at the moment, the CSO looks sh*t - and Liz Pike (I think that's her name, standing in for Jane Hill) is absolutely awful.
I must admit I've stopped watching as it's such a limited service they're offering at the moment, the CSO looks sh*t - and Liz Pike (I think that's her name, standing in for Jane Hill) is absolutely awful.
Does anyone know why Jane Hill's off? The channel isn't the same without her
Maybe the bright green/blue made her feel sick.
At first the set was pretty bad, but since they've made the changes to the lighting or whatever it's much better now. It's not as if it's permanent, there's less than 5 weeks to go (hopefully)
And IIRC, CSO was developed by the BBC. I faintly remember Peter Gibbs saying on that behind the scenes weather video saying so.
:-(
A former member
Why does everybody keep saying how realistic the fake studio looks? It looks awful - everytime I tune in, the background looks fuzzy, and I just turn over again. It's bordering on unwatchable, maybe their plan is to make to channel so bad that any revamp will be seen as major.
SP
Sput
Phil posted:
It's bordering on unwatchable, maybe their plan is to make to channel so bad that any revamp will be seen as major.
No, that's BBC3. This is just a coincidence.
NG
CSO was the name the BBC gave to the technique when they first designed a box to do it - this was in the days before it was a standard facility on vision mixers (in fact the BBC was still designing and building its own vision mixers)
Because you couldn't buy kit off the shelf to do the "colour based keying" they had to invent a name for it - and within the BBC that name has stuck - even though the buttons on the mixers used to do it these days are labelled chroma key...
(It helps that CSO is a snappy abbreviation - and the BBC loves them!)
noggin
Founding member
Spencer For Hire posted:
It always seems that it's called CSO at the BBC and Chromakey everywhere else (from my experience). Anybody know why?
CSO was the name the BBC gave to the technique when they first designed a box to do it - this was in the days before it was a standard facility on vision mixers (in fact the BBC was still designing and building its own vision mixers)
Because you couldn't buy kit off the shelf to do the "colour based keying" they had to invent a name for it - and within the BBC that name has stuck - even though the buttons on the mixers used to do it these days are labelled chroma key...
(It helps that CSO is a snappy abbreviation - and the BBC loves them!)
IO
Not having posted in years I feel that perhaps I ought not go against the group....... but, erm, I quite like Liz Pike.
She's a fine newsreader and it may be the very point that detracts many people that I quite like: she's individual, with her own style. She's not some Joanna Gosling/Susannah Reid/Anna Jones clone; she has her own unique delivery!
She's a fine newsreader and it may be the very point that detracts many people that I quite like: she's individual, with her own style. She's not some Joanna Gosling/Susannah Reid/Anna Jones clone; she has her own unique delivery!
