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The new look News 24 countdown will apparently carry the word 'subtitles' from launch; on each countdown where the proceeding hour has subtitles available.
GE
I remember that!
I understood it to be two panes of glass, with liquid crystals sandwiched between them. Send a charge through them, and they turn opaque enough to be used as a rear projection screen.
Is anything like that still in use?
thegeek
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Steve in Pudsey posted:
Re these projection screens - didn't the Grandstand set have something like this years ago? A full wrap-around screen behind the presenter.
I seem to remember Steve Ryder demonstrating it to Andi Peters on Live and Kicking (I think) and pressing a button on a box by his desk which changed it to be clear, showing the gallery behind or to the graphics used on Sunday Grandstand, and then pressed another button to show a feed of TC7 (which used to be Live and Kicking's studio before News took it over)
I seem to remember Steve Ryder demonstrating it to Andi Peters on Live and Kicking (I think) and pressing a button on a box by his desk which changed it to be clear, showing the gallery behind or to the graphics used on Sunday Grandstand, and then pressed another button to show a feed of TC7 (which used to be Live and Kicking's studio before News took it over)
I remember that!
I understood it to be two panes of glass, with liquid crystals sandwiched between them. Send a charge through them, and they turn opaque enough to be used as a rear projection screen.
Is anything like that still in use?
SP
surely the following hour rather than the preceding would make more sense?
BBC Scotland posted:
The new look News 24 countdown will apparently carry the word 'subtitles' from launch; on each countdown where the proceeding hour has subtitles available.
surely the following hour rather than the preceding would make more sense?
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I remember that!
I understood it to be two panes of glass, with liquid crystals sandwiched between them. Send a charge through them, and they turn opaque enough to be used as a rear projection screen.
Is anything like that still in use?
Many of the regional TV backdrops are done this way.
A former member
thegeek posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Re these projection screens - didn't the Grandstand set have something like this years ago? A full wrap-around screen behind the presenter.
I seem to remember Steve Ryder demonstrating it to Andi Peters on Live and Kicking (I think) and pressing a button on a box by his desk which changed it to be clear, showing the gallery behind or to the graphics used on Sunday Grandstand, and then pressed another button to show a feed of TC7 (which used to be Live and Kicking's studio before News took it over)
I seem to remember Steve Ryder demonstrating it to Andi Peters on Live and Kicking (I think) and pressing a button on a box by his desk which changed it to be clear, showing the gallery behind or to the graphics used on Sunday Grandstand, and then pressed another button to show a feed of TC7 (which used to be Live and Kicking's studio before News took it over)
I remember that!
I understood it to be two panes of glass, with liquid crystals sandwiched between them. Send a charge through them, and they turn opaque enough to be used as a rear projection screen.
Is anything like that still in use?
Many of the regional TV backdrops are done this way.
SB
surely the following hour rather than the preceding would make more sense?
He did say proceeding rather than preceeding, so he did mean the following hour.
Steve in Pudsey posted:
BBC Scotland posted:
The new look News 24 countdown will apparently carry the word 'subtitles' from launch; on each countdown where the proceeding hour has subtitles available.
surely the following hour rather than the preceding would make more sense?
He did say proceeding rather than preceeding, so he did mean the following hour.
my apologies
SJ
Someone is going to have to explain this to me... how could you "project" black? Surely black is the lack of light, so where there's black, nothing would be projected. That would explain why those parts would be transparent - because there's no light hitting the screen.
I'm probably missing something, but the background on the logo on the screens in this picture is black, and the screen isn't see-through - it's very definitely black.
Lee Stanley posted:
tsunami__active posted:
Hope I'm not getting too carried away with this transcreen/holoscreen rumours, but if you read the FAQs on the transcreen pages here, you will notice that if you project black onto a transcreen it is effectively see-through.
Which got me looking at the press release shots of the new studio (dug this one up- nice to have a picture of the relaunch within 100 pages of the actual relaunch day!):
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/news_24_1.jpg
Taken from page 134- image courtesy of Marcus
They could project black when not using this screen to see through to the other areas of the studio, so providing an open gateway from the main desk.
Just an idea though- this holoscreen stuff could all be untrue.
Which got me looking at the press release shots of the new studio (dug this one up- nice to have a picture of the relaunch within 100 pages of the actual relaunch day!):
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/news_24_1.jpg
Taken from page 134- image courtesy of Marcus
They could project black when not using this screen to see through to the other areas of the studio, so providing an open gateway from the main desk.
Just an idea though- this holoscreen stuff could all be untrue.
Someone is going to have to explain this to me... how could you "project" black? Surely black is the lack of light, so where there's black, nothing would be projected. That would explain why those parts would be transparent - because there's no light hitting the screen.
I'm probably missing something, but the background on the logo on the screens in this picture is black, and the screen isn't see-through - it's very definitely black.
SB
Someone is going to have to explain this to me... how could you "project" black? Surely black is the lack of light, so where there's black, nothing would be projected. That would explain why those parts would be transparent - because there's no light hitting the screen.
I'm probably missing something, but the background on the logo on the screens in this picture is black, and the screen isn't see-through - it's very definitely black.
Do remember that what you see behind the presenters is all a mock up, so dont use the photo as firm reference.
1st: If the background was real it would have been in focus in this shot, 2nd: if you look at a selection of photos a number of pages back, the view of the newsroom doesnt exactly logically line up between the photos if you compare them (look at the position of the blue screen in the various views).
tillyoshea posted:
Lee Stanley posted:
tsunami__active posted:
Hope I'm not getting too carried away with this transcreen/holoscreen rumours, but if you read the FAQs on the transcreen pages here, you will notice that if you project black onto a transcreen it is effectively see-through.
Which got me looking at the press release shots of the new studio (dug this one up- nice to have a picture of the relaunch within 100 pages of the actual relaunch day!):
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/news_24_1.jpg
Taken from page 134- image courtesy of Marcus
They could project black when not using this screen to see through to the other areas of the studio, so providing an open gateway from the main desk.
Just an idea though- this holoscreen stuff could all be untrue.
Which got me looking at the press release shots of the new studio (dug this one up- nice to have a picture of the relaunch within 100 pages of the actual relaunch day!):
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/news_24_1.jpg
Taken from page 134- image courtesy of Marcus
They could project black when not using this screen to see through to the other areas of the studio, so providing an open gateway from the main desk.
Just an idea though- this holoscreen stuff could all be untrue.
Someone is going to have to explain this to me... how could you "project" black? Surely black is the lack of light, so where there's black, nothing would be projected. That would explain why those parts would be transparent - because there's no light hitting the screen.
I'm probably missing something, but the background on the logo on the screens in this picture is black, and the screen isn't see-through - it's very definitely black.
Do remember that what you see behind the presenters is all a mock up, so dont use the photo as firm reference.
1st: If the background was real it would have been in focus in this shot, 2nd: if you look at a selection of photos a number of pages back, the view of the newsroom doesnt exactly logically line up between the photos if you compare them (look at the position of the blue screen in the various views).
CA
Holgraphic presentation
Robotic presenters.
Soon the channel will be running itself.
SteveL - RE: the N9 fake backdrop. Are you saying that some element of BBC News presentation doesn't matter? God lord. I never thought I'd see the day.
I was pointing out that it looks crap, Steve. I know BBC News can do no wrong, but since when has it mattered to people on here whether 99.9% of the general viewing public would notice?
Considering that everyone on here points out everything that's right about BBC News, I thought I'd take this one opportunity to point out something that was wrong.
Robotic presenters.
Soon the channel will be running itself.
SteveL - RE: the N9 fake backdrop. Are you saying that some element of BBC News presentation doesn't matter? God lord. I never thought I'd see the day.
I was pointing out that it looks crap, Steve. I know BBC News can do no wrong, but since when has it mattered to people on here whether 99.9% of the general viewing public would notice?
Considering that everyone on here points out everything that's right about BBC News, I thought I'd take this one opportunity to point out something that was wrong.