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WM
With Me, Tim Wilcox
the map on BBC World last night also used the corporate BBC font, namely Humanist. This will prob change if we are going all Helvetica?
MO
Moz
With Me, Tim Wilcox posted:
the map on BBC World last night also used the corporate BBC font, namely Humanist. This will prob change if we are going all Helvetica?


The BBC corporate font is Gill Sans!
LO
Londoner
With Me, Tim Wilcox posted:
the corporate BBC font, namely Humanist.

Better known as Gill Sans
DA
DAS Founding member
Humanist is Gill Sans just as Humanist 777 is Frutiger.
MT
MrTomServo
Moz posted:
With Me, Tim Wilcox posted:
the map on BBC World last night also used the corporate BBC font, namely Humanist. This will prob change if we are going all Helvetica?


The BBC corporate font is Gill Sans!


Humanist is a ripoff of Gill Sans released by a different company. And I could have sworn the new font is Univers, and not Helvetica.

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MO
Moz
Whatever it's called, I doubt it'd be replaced as the corporate font - it's just that it doesn't really work on the straps. Fine as uppercase ONE or TWO or NEWS or SPORT etc but not in lowercase as standard text.

You must admit the new font looks better (if the one used on AD is the new font?)
WM
With Me, Tim Wilcox
is univers just the same as helvetica ala humanist = gill sans... u learn something everyday... i'm just going by wot it is in my Microsoft word!!
MA
Marcus Founding member
johnnybegood posted:
Did anyone see HARDtalk this morning?

Alastair introduced it, the titles went and then when Tim Sebastian introduces the programme he went something like "Autocue..Autocue" then cut to blank screen and back to Alastair.

After about 40 second we went back to HARDtalk and Tim Sebastian now with autocue.

Is the 0430 edition live then? Or did News 24 play out some out-take copy?


I don't think you would get Tim Sebastian and the whole Nationals crew in at 4.30 in the morning to do an edition of Hardtalk. And if it was live I don't think you would get a presenter yelling about a lack of autoque.

I guess it was a false start to the programme and the directors accidentally cued up the tape in the wrong place.
WM
With Me, Tim Wilcox
maybe the new-look N24 should adopt the Business Today "bed"... its the best of the lot! must say though that the big "24" looks better in Gill Sans than in Univers... think they went a bit too far there...

Also, i was surfin the TVHome site last night and saw some black and orange/gold idents for BBC World News... how old are these???
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A former member
With Me, Tim Wilcox posted:

Also, i was surfin the TVHome site last night and saw some black and orange/gold idents for BBC World News... how old are these???


These were launched Last year following the launch of BBC Four News.
MT
MrTomServo
With Me, Tim Wilcox posted:
is univers just the same as helvetica ala humanist = gill sans... u learn something everyday... i'm just going by wot it is in my Microsoft word!!


Sorry for threadjacking about fonts, but here we go:

They're similar, but not identical. According to Adobe, "Helvetica was designed by Max Miedinger in 1957 for the Haas foundry of Switzerland (the name is derived from Helvetia, the Latin name for Switzerland). The design is based on the grotesques of the late nineteenth century, but new refinements put it in the sans serif sub-category of neo-grotesque."

Also according to Adobe, Adrian Frutiger also began work on Univers in Zurich, which would also eventually be released in 1957 by the Deberny & Peignot foundry in Paris. The design is a neo-grotesque, similar to its contemporary, Helvetica, but has several subtle key differences.

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BI
bigitup_j
oooo nice little bit of history.

only 2 1/2 days, unless bbc tv centre blows up!

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