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Well, I don't like the Guardian that much; is tediously left wing. Even lefties like to read about the right, and you don't get that in the Guardian. Not really quite as left as you suggest, I'm going to the Republican National Convention in New York next year... so, what does that make me?
Was delighted that Bush got elected; in terms of politics, makes things so much more interesting than the interminably dull Gore. Not necessarily supportive of all of his policies, but the world would have been a hell of a lot more boring if those Floridian votes had been counted properly.
Right - now that's out of the way - think the new N24 graphics are similar to Sky's in the respect that they are going to be based on the existing national news ones, with the red slug in the bottom corner - i.e. very much of Sky origin. The look like Sky's, but just the other way round. They aren't totally original, and an entirely new way of approaching things.
That said, it is what they do when in action that will be interesting. Their capabilities and flexibility will be what sets them apart from Sky.
tsunami__active posted:
Firstly, with the week long relaunch delay (not that the Guardian's media editor knows about it), we've got to fill the space with something- there is a limit to speculation, especially when most is known. Where with this forum be without the occasional slanging match?
You see, that's beautiful slanging- that's far more interesting to read than the latest ITV regional news ident subset for the Western half of the Orkney islands. Anyway back on topic (as if you'd close the "featured thread"
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And I'd expect you to say all that because you're a lefty, who likes to read things he agrees with. Perhaps my "quality" remark was a little tongue-in-cheek, but the point remains that Media Guardian are hopelessly biased against the BBC, and their online arm generally misreport/misinterpret (read "blantently alter") far more stories than most outlets would consider "respectable".
That however, would be selective listening. She didn't say N24 was "boring, lifeless, crap at breaking news", but she was critical of some aspects of the service (as I'm sure she would be of Sky news). She also pointed out that the idea that Sky break more news "first" is a misconception proven by independent research.
Oh and I don't defend N24 to hilt anymore than you defend Sky.
I also just love your selective responding- I'll take the ignoring of my post on why the potential new look astons don't resemble sky news as an admission of your "level of stupidity I have yet to see matched on here"
c@t posted:
tsunami - your assertion that the Guardian and quality do not go together shows a level of stupidity I have yet to see matched on here.
You see, that's beautiful slanging- that's far more interesting to read than the latest ITV regional news ident subset for the Western half of the Orkney islands. Anyway back on topic (as if you'd close the "featured thread"
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Quite how you are able to come to the conclusion that a newspaper responsible for bringing down the last government through exposure of sleaze allegations, a newspaper that uncovered genocide in Eastern Europe, a newspaper whose Comment pages formed the platform for the SDLP on which to launch, quite how you come to a conclusion that a newspaper like that is not of "quality" is beyond me.
And I'd expect you to say all that because you're a lefty, who likes to read things he agrees with. Perhaps my "quality" remark was a little tongue-in-cheek, but the point remains that Media Guardian are hopelessly biased against the BBC, and their online arm generally misreport/misinterpret (read "blantently alter") far more stories than most outlets would consider "respectable".
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What I find so wonderfully ironic is that these past few years I have been saying what a disastrous mess News 24 is: boring, lifeless, crap at breaking news. For years you have been disagreeing with me, defending it to the hilt. And yet just the other day, the woman in charge of the channel itself comes out and backs up everything I've said.
Remarkable. Truly remarkable.
Remarkable. Truly remarkable.
That however, would be selective listening. She didn't say N24 was "boring, lifeless, crap at breaking news", but she was critical of some aspects of the service (as I'm sure she would be of Sky news). She also pointed out that the idea that Sky break more news "first" is a misconception proven by independent research.
Oh and I don't defend N24 to hilt anymore than you defend Sky.
I also just love your selective responding- I'll take the ignoring of my post on why the potential new look astons don't resemble sky news as an admission of your "level of stupidity I have yet to see matched on here"
Well, I don't like the Guardian that much; is tediously left wing. Even lefties like to read about the right, and you don't get that in the Guardian. Not really quite as left as you suggest, I'm going to the Republican National Convention in New York next year... so, what does that make me?
Was delighted that Bush got elected; in terms of politics, makes things so much more interesting than the interminably dull Gore. Not necessarily supportive of all of his policies, but the world would have been a hell of a lot more boring if those Floridian votes had been counted properly.
Right - now that's out of the way - think the new N24 graphics are similar to Sky's in the respect that they are going to be based on the existing national news ones, with the red slug in the bottom corner - i.e. very much of Sky origin. The look like Sky's, but just the other way round. They aren't totally original, and an entirely new way of approaching things.
That said, it is what they do when in action that will be interesting. Their capabilities and flexibility will be what sets them apart from Sky.
MD
Well I have come up with an idea of the graphics they could use. Not exactly the sort of graphics I would like, but thats BBC News 24 for ya!
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
:-(
Did you see what I said to you a few pages back about the website?
A former member
martinDTanderson posted:
Well I have come up with an idea of the graphics they could use. Not exactly the sort of graphics I would like, but thats BBC News 24 for ya!
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
Did you see what I said to you a few pages back about the website?
MD
Did you see what I said to you a few pages back about the website?
Do you mean about BBC World adopting these new graphics with News 24?
I REALLY hate HTV West posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
Well I have come up with an idea of the graphics they could use. Not exactly the sort of graphics I would like, but thats BBC News 24 for ya!
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
Did you see what I said to you a few pages back about the website?
Do you mean about BBC World adopting these new graphics with News 24?
:-(
Did you see what I said to you a few pages back about the website?
Do you mean about BBC World adopting these new graphics with News 24?
Nope, about the banner ...
A former member
martinDTanderson posted:
I REALLY hate HTV West posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
Well I have come up with an idea of the graphics they could use. Not exactly the sort of graphics I would like, but thats BBC News 24 for ya!
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
mdta's TVmocks - BBC News 24 Dec 2003
Did you see what I said to you a few pages back about the website?
Do you mean about BBC World adopting these new graphics with News 24?
Nope, about the banner ...
:-(
I can confirm it will - have seen it. Very nice.
A former member
martinDTanderson posted:
I said it may change because it would only involve a few changes to the stylesheets and image replacements...
It was so far back, I got to page 178 and gave up looking
It was so far back, I got to page 178 and gave up looking
I can confirm it will - have seen it. Very nice.
IN
National News graphics and titles are not changing till sometime early next year, so News Online look I guess might not change till then?
martinDTanderson posted:
I said it may change because it would only involve a few changes to the stylesheets and image replacements...
It was so far back, I got to page 178 and gave up looking
It was so far back, I got to page 178 and gave up looking
National News graphics and titles are not changing till sometime early next year, so News Online look I guess might not change till then?
BB
National News graphics and titles are not changing till sometime early next year, so News Online look I guess might not change till then?
I thought they were changing next week with N24 relaunch??
intheknow posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
I said it may change because it would only involve a few changes to the stylesheets and image replacements...
It was so far back, I got to page 178 and gave up looking
It was so far back, I got to page 178 and gave up looking
National News graphics and titles are not changing till sometime early next year, so News Online look I guess might not change till then?
I thought they were changing next week with N24 relaunch??