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CNN? Launched 23 years ago and wasn't considered to be particularly good until the first Gulf War, 11 years after the launch.
It takes time for any new channel to "find its feet" and develop its own style
So News 24 won't be any good until 2008?
At the current rate of events, 2008 is probably when we'll get to see the new studio they've been constructing for the last 3 months.
All I'm saying is that it takes time for a new channel to settle. Consider also that the style of N24 has changed totally since the original launch as they have tried to work out how to differentiate the channel from the others.
Also, when Sky New first launched it was fairly rubbish for the first few years as well
A former member
A Major Setup posted:
JimR posted:
A Major Setup posted:
Can't someone just design a good, powerful and authorititive news channel? Oh wait...they have...CNN.
CNN? Launched 23 years ago and wasn't considered to be particularly good until the first Gulf War, 11 years after the launch.
It takes time for any new channel to "find its feet" and develop its own style
So News 24 won't be any good until 2008?
At the current rate of events, 2008 is probably when we'll get to see the new studio they've been constructing for the last 3 months.
All I'm saying is that it takes time for a new channel to settle. Consider also that the style of N24 has changed totally since the original launch as they have tried to work out how to differentiate the channel from the others.
Also, when Sky New first launched it was fairly rubbish for the first few years as well
UK
CNN? Launched 23 years ago and wasn't considered to be particularly good until the first Gulf War, 11 years after the launch.
It takes time for any new channel to "find its feet" and develop its own style
So News 24 won't be any good until 2008?
At the current rate of events, 2008 is probably when we'll get to see the new studio they've been constructing for the last 3 months.
And if your idea of 18 days (since the 10th November 2003) is three months, then it's going to be 33 years after launch...
A Major Setup posted:
JimR posted:
A Major Setup posted:
Can't someone just design a good, powerful and authorititive news channel? Oh wait...they have...CNN.
CNN? Launched 23 years ago and wasn't considered to be particularly good until the first Gulf War, 11 years after the launch.
It takes time for any new channel to "find its feet" and develop its own style
So News 24 won't be any good until 2008?
At the current rate of events, 2008 is probably when we'll get to see the new studio they've been constructing for the last 3 months.
And if your idea of 18 days (since the 10th November 2003) is three months, then it's going to be 33 years after launch...
:-(
CNN= Chicken Noodle News - one of their first presenters was David "Kid" "national radio one" Jenson.
I never watched CNN until I got Sky TV in 1995. It was good back then (as it is now) - although it was either CNN or Sky News in 1995 if you wanted the news any time of the day.
There's no denying that CNN is one of the most respected news broadcasters in the world, as is the BBC. But unfortunately, BBC news management have their heads so well and firmly inserted into their own arses (held in place with endless red tape), that the news agenda is becoming more and more diluted with stories which aren't really news worthy for a national bulletin.
What ever happend to the epic reports like those of Michael Buerk in Ethiopia, or Jeremy Bowen on the Gaza strip? BBC News' priorities are becoming increasingly bogged down in unimportant news such as David Beckham and other items which should only really be restricted to the trashy pages of tabloid newspapers.
A former member
ukfreetv posted:
A Major Setup posted:
...CNN.
CNN= Chicken Noodle News - one of their first presenters was David "Kid" "national radio one" Jenson.
I never watched CNN until I got Sky TV in 1995. It was good back then (as it is now) - although it was either CNN or Sky News in 1995 if you wanted the news any time of the day.
There's no denying that CNN is one of the most respected news broadcasters in the world, as is the BBC. But unfortunately, BBC news management have their heads so well and firmly inserted into their own arses (held in place with endless red tape), that the news agenda is becoming more and more diluted with stories which aren't really news worthy for a national bulletin.
What ever happend to the epic reports like those of Michael Buerk in Ethiopia, or Jeremy Bowen on the Gaza strip? BBC News' priorities are becoming increasingly bogged down in unimportant news such as David Beckham and other items which should only really be restricted to the trashy pages of tabloid newspapers.
CW
Charlie Wells
Moderator
At least with the BBC not promoting the new look News 24, they've ended up being able to delay the launch without looking completely stupid.
RT
Well, they didn't know that this would happen... lol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3240232.stm
rts
Founding member
Charlie Wells posted:
At least with the BBC not promoting the new look News 24, they've ended up being able to delay the launch without looking completely stupid.
Well, they didn't know that this would happen... lol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3240232.stm
CA
Common misconception, there.
CNN was actually considered to be quite amazing - hated, but amazing - by the big 3 American networks, just a couple of years after its launch.
It only got international respect after the Gulf War, but had already been highly successful in the US.
They were the first network to report on the Iranian hostage crisis, the Reagan shooting, the only ones to cover the Challenger disaster live (the main networks decided to go to a break just before it exploded), Falklands coverage, Lennon assassination, etc. They were the first network in the world to pick up on the "mysterious disease" that was sweeping through San Francisco and killing gay men - i.e. AIDS. They launched CNN International in 1985...
It didn't have quite the same reputation, but to assert that it was in any way crap before the Gulf War just isn't true.
JimR posted:
CNN? Launched 23 years ago and wasn't considered to be particularly good until the first Gulf War, 11 years after the launch.
It takes time for any new channel to "find its feet" and develop its own style
It takes time for any new channel to "find its feet" and develop its own style
Common misconception, there.
CNN was actually considered to be quite amazing - hated, but amazing - by the big 3 American networks, just a couple of years after its launch.
It only got international respect after the Gulf War, but had already been highly successful in the US.
They were the first network to report on the Iranian hostage crisis, the Reagan shooting, the only ones to cover the Challenger disaster live (the main networks decided to go to a break just before it exploded), Falklands coverage, Lennon assassination, etc. They were the first network in the world to pick up on the "mysterious disease" that was sweeping through San Francisco and killing gay men - i.e. AIDS. They launched CNN International in 1985...
It didn't have quite the same reputation, but to assert that it was in any way crap before the Gulf War just isn't true.
:-(
Well there's an article on News Online, theres a feature about it on the Press Office page - short of trailing it on telelvision, they are promoting it.
A former member
Charlie Wells posted:
At least with the BBC not promoting the new look News 24, they've ended up being able to delay the launch without looking completely stupid.
Well there's an article on News Online, theres a feature about it on the Press Office page - short of trailing it on telelvision, they are promoting it.
UK
I never watched CNN until I got Sky TV in 1995. It was good back then (as it is now) - although it was either CNN or Sky News in 1995 if you wanted the news any time of the day.
CNN was the first 24-hour news channel, launched in the US. We get to see CNN International, and this is a bit like comparing BBC News 24 and BBC World.
The domestic CNN covers much the same agenda as News 24, but with phone-ins and so on.
CNN has a number of different channels in it's dometic setting, including the financial channel CNNfn and CNN Headline News, which loops on headlines.
The BBC's reputation comes from radio, as many more people listen to BBC World Service output than take BBC World TV.
The problem is that you will never please everyone with a single channel. If you live in Scotland, it's too "English". If you live in England, it's too "metropolitan". If you live in a city, it's too "Westminster".
If you love sport, then there isn't enough. If you have a business, then the market updates are of little use. If you love the news, it's too headlines. If you want headlines, there's analysis.
I don't know wether you can ignore that there is a powerful money-power-advertsing-celebrity axis, and not report on it though.
A Major Setup posted:
I never watched CNN until I got Sky TV in 1995. It was good back then (as it is now) - although it was either CNN or Sky News in 1995 if you wanted the news any time of the day.
CNN was the first 24-hour news channel, launched in the US. We get to see CNN International, and this is a bit like comparing BBC News 24 and BBC World.
The domestic CNN covers much the same agenda as News 24, but with phone-ins and so on.
CNN has a number of different channels in it's dometic setting, including the financial channel CNNfn and CNN Headline News, which loops on headlines.
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There's no denying that CNN is one of the most respected news broadcasters in the world, as is the BBC.
The BBC's reputation comes from radio, as many more people listen to BBC World Service output than take BBC World TV.
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But unfortunately, BBC news management have their heads so well and firmly inserted into their own arses (held in place with endless red tape), that the news agenda is becoming more and more diluted with stories which aren't really news worthy for a national bulletin.
The problem is that you will never please everyone with a single channel. If you live in Scotland, it's too "English". If you live in England, it's too "metropolitan". If you live in a city, it's too "Westminster".
If you love sport, then there isn't enough. If you have a business, then the market updates are of little use. If you love the news, it's too headlines. If you want headlines, there's analysis.
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What ever happend to the epic reports like those of Michael Buerk in Ethiopia, or Jeremy Bowen on the Gaza strip? BBC News' priorities are becoming increasingly bogged down in unimportant news such as David Beckham and other items which should only really be restricted to the trashy pages of tabloid newspapers.
I don't know wether you can ignore that there is a powerful money-power-advertsing-celebrity axis, and not report on it though.
RT
rts
Founding member
Just some caps of News 24 coming from Millbank for those who don't have the channel.
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/001.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/002.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/003.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/004.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/005.jpg
And a fact some may find interesting, the background of the computers in the first picture is actually a reflection. It's a mirror. And if you ever visit Millbank stand next to it a see how s**t it looks! Very wobbly, like mirror card. Not so obvious on telly though.
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/001.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/002.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/003.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/004.jpg
http://www.rtsnet.tv/temp/captures/power281103/005.jpg
And a fact some may find interesting, the background of the computers in the first picture is actually a reflection. It's a mirror. And if you ever visit Millbank stand next to it a see how s**t it looks! Very wobbly, like mirror card. Not so obvious on telly though.