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BBC News 24 - Local Weather

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BBC Scotland
Just noticed this morning while Breakfast is on-air and BBC One goes to local weather, BBC News 24 has a slide on screen with the countdown music playing in the background. It points viewers to go to Website/Ceefax or wait.

Can anyone tell me when this started and also why BBC News 24 stills shows BBC London News but not the BBC London Weather. That seems a little odd?? Surely a caption should appear during the local news as well?

Thanks
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A former member
BBC Scotland posted:
Just noticed this morning while Breakfast is on-air and BBC One goes to local weather, BBC News 24 has a slide on screen with the countdown music playing in the background. It points viewers to go to Website/Ceefax or wait.

Can anyone tell me when this started and also why BBC News 24 stills shows BBC London News but not the BBC London Weather. That seems a little odd?? Surely a caption should appear during the local news as well?


Presumably it's because a caption for 30 or so seconds is OK, a caption for 5 minutes isn't
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NickyS Founding member
I don't think London have a local forecast but I may be wrong
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noggin Founding member
AIUI BBC London does have a local forecast - but for some reason Breakfast have decided to put out a holding sequence on Network (and thus on BBC One London satellite and BBC News 24) rather than the London forecast (as would be the case with a news opt) This means London opt-out locally on terrestrial (analogue and digital) for their weather opt.

Odd choice - as there must be more digital satellite viewers than digital terrestrial for BBC One London?

(I guess they put out the holding caption in case the regions forget to opt for weather - but I don't personally see why it is considered different to the news opts - nor do I see why satellite viewers of BBC One London are treated to a poorer service than those on analogue or DTT)
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A former member
The old countdown music lives on (slightly modified it seems though) ! Very Happy Still I agree with how odd it looks.

I would have thought that just putting BBC London weather on News 24 would be sufficient, perhaps along with an extra on-screen caption advising viewers to switch to BBC One if necessary.
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James Vertigan Founding member
Larry Scutta posted:

Presumably it's because a caption for 30 or so seconds is OK, a caption for 5 minutes isn't


Tell that to BBC Scotland! (The actual BBC - not the forum member!) They have a caption up for at least 2 or 3 hours during their football coverage which can't be shown on Digital Satellite or cable... Surely as they can opt out of the normal BBC Scotland programmes to show a caption, they can opt out to put other programmes or Ceefax on? And they could at least put some decent music on the caption - the one they have at the moment is far too sombre, and it's looped too many times! It's worse than the caption they used to show all day on Sky Premier Widescreen!
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Big Brother Founding member
James Vertigan posted:
Larry Scutta posted:

Presumably it's because a caption for 30 or so seconds is OK, a caption for 5 minutes isn't


Tell that to BBC Scotland! (The actual BBC - not the forum member!) They have a caption up for at least 2 or 3 hours during their football coverage which can't be shown on Digital Satellite or cable... Surely as they can opt out of the normal BBC Scotland programmes to show a caption, they can opt out to put other programmes or Ceefax on? And they could at least put some decent music on the caption - the one they have at the moment is far too sombre, and it's looped too many times! It's worse than the caption they used to show all day on Sky Premier Widescreen!


Emmm I think the idea is that you read the caption and change channel?!? Rolling Eyes You know... although some of the geeks on here would rather watch a static caption and some cheesy music for sport. Rolling Eyes
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A former member
Does anyone have a capture of the slide that appears on News 24?
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A former member
Big Brother posted:
Emmm I think the idea is that you read the caption and change channel?!? Rolling Eyes You know... although some of the geeks on here would rather watch a static caption and some cheesy music for sport. Rolling Eyes


The music is nice.... rather calming
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nimdy
ITV/ITN does the same with news simulcasts - when a news programme is on ITV1 and ITV-NC they will both show the national news, then ITV-NC cuts to the London region for regional news, and a slide with music (and 'Tune to ITV1 for local news' caption) is played when the weather comes on.
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A former member
Could this be a contractual issue with the Met Office, or something in the T&Cs of the forcasters themselves. Something like if a regional forcast went out on a national channel, then the forcasters would have to be paid a higher rate?

Only a thought.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Well you may or may not know this but all the regional forecasts in front of the CSO screen during Breakfast (during the regional news opt) actually come from London! It's the same weather forecaster all over the country... but they do individual forecasts for each region (must take a while to record them all!)

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