SP
But as Belfast, Cardiff and Glasgow all have full staffed pres departments couldn't one of those be routed to network?
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A former member
Larry, are the new backup facilities being built at Elstree because of the WW2 UXB threat? Aren't they going to start digging up around TVC soon?
BT
For most common problems (fire alarm, bomb scare, blocked toilets at TV Centre) , you want your backup centre to be quite close by. Far enough to be clear of any likely police cordon/exclusion zone, and far enough to be on a different telephone exchange, but close enough to be nice and easy for sending staff and tapes to.
The only time you want it to be far away is if/when something catastrophic happens to London - nuke, chemical attack, invasion by hostile power etc. When that great day arrives, there are still other backup facilities, much further away.
Pebble Mill was never an ideal backup. Not only because of distance, but because it never really had much in the way of dedicated facilities allocated for the backup role. They'd have managed it, but very much in a "lash-up" way.
Corin posted:
I do not understand the logic of moving the backup center geographically closer to the BBC TV Centre. Surely a backup center should be as far away as possible, eg in Glasgow or Belfast?
For most common problems (fire alarm, bomb scare, blocked toilets at TV Centre) , you want your backup centre to be quite close by. Far enough to be clear of any likely police cordon/exclusion zone, and far enough to be on a different telephone exchange, but close enough to be nice and easy for sending staff and tapes to.
The only time you want it to be far away is if/when something catastrophic happens to London - nuke, chemical attack, invasion by hostile power etc. When that great day arrives, there are still other backup facilities, much further away.
Pebble Mill was never an ideal backup. Not only because of distance, but because it never really had much in the way of dedicated facilities allocated for the backup role. They'd have managed it, but very much in a "lash-up" way.
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Yes, but as keep saying, the programmes are all in London!!
There's only so long you can fill time with repeats of Beechgrove Garden and Scotch and Wry
A former member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
But as Belfast, Cardiff and Glasgow all have full staffed pres departments couldn't one of those be routed to network?
Yes, but as keep saying, the programmes are all in London!!
There's only so long you can fill time with repeats of Beechgrove Garden and Scotch and Wry
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No, they're mainly being built because there's a huge wrecking ball ready and waiting with Pebble Mills name on it.
They started work on the shopping centre a while back I believe
A former member
I REALLY hate HTV West posted:
Larry, are the new backup facilities being built at Elstree because of the WW2 UXB threat? Aren't they going to start digging up around TVC soon?
No, they're mainly being built because there's a huge wrecking ball ready and waiting with Pebble Mills name on it.
They started work on the shopping centre a while back I believe
CO
So in other words it is really being done for the benefit of London workers.
However, what I was considering was that if a disaster was sufficiently great to destroy the capabilities of the BBC TV Center, then probably all of the aforementioned presenters and staff would be dead or in hospital on life support (if there were any hospitals still standing in the area). After all a missile strike from the remaining Axis of Evil nations, Iran or the DPR of Korea, cannot be ruled out.
Larry Scutta posted:
A 6-8 hour car journey or a plane shuttle isn't really an option especially if TV Centre is unavailiable for several days or weeks
So in other words it is really being done for the benefit of London workers.
However, what I was considering was that if a disaster was sufficiently great to destroy the capabilities of the BBC TV Center, then probably all of the aforementioned presenters and staff would be dead or in hospital on life support (if there were any hospitals still standing in the area). After all a missile strike from the remaining Axis of Evil nations, Iran or the DPR of Korea, cannot be ruled out.
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So in other words it is really being done for the benefit of London workers.
No, it's plain common sense. Everyone that works at TV Centre lives quite nearby so if it has to temporarily relocate you want to relocate to as near as possible
A former member
Corin posted:
Larry Scutta posted:
A 6-8 hour car journey or a plane shuttle isn't really an option especially if TV Centre is unavailiable for several days or weeks
So in other words it is really being done for the benefit of London workers.
No, it's plain common sense. Everyone that works at TV Centre lives quite nearby so if it has to temporarily relocate you want to relocate to as near as possible
TI
Gosh, just seen the BBC Two thing. So while she was going on "This IS BBC TWO" One were still on a program as I remember watching it. BBC One did a better job at least. After 2 showed the news, what did they do? I know one stuck with news, but did 2 stay too or go to the advertised program?
James Vertigan posted:
Interesting to note after viewing this file over at TV Whirl, how BBC2 comes out of Steptoe and Son and joins BBC1 for the announcement of the Queen Mother's death... BBC2 must've been told earlier than BBC1, because I've seen a file where BBC1 go from Auntie's Bloomers into the Ballet still and then an announcement and straight to the newsroom but on this file BBC2 stick with their ident for at least 3 minutes and about 4 announcements before Peter Sissons pops up - unless the file I've seen of BBC1 breaking the news was edited and they had the same problem...
Gosh, just seen the BBC Two thing. So while she was going on "This IS BBC TWO" One were still on a program as I remember watching it. BBC One did a better job at least. After 2 showed the news, what did they do? I know one stuck with news, but did 2 stay too or go to the advertised program?
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No, they're mainly being built because there's a huge wrecking ball ready and waiting with Pebble Mills name on it.
They started work on the shopping centre a while back I believe
Ah yes, good point. Slipped my mind.
Was up in Pebble Mill a few weeks ago - still a total dump!
I've not been inside the Mailbox yet, but from all accounts it's tiny - can't imagine they'd be able to run network TV from there.
A former member
Larry Scutta posted:
I REALLY hate HTV West posted:
Larry, are the new backup facilities being built at Elstree because of the WW2 UXB threat? Aren't they going to start digging up around TVC soon?
No, they're mainly being built because there's a huge wrecking ball ready and waiting with Pebble Mills name on it.
They started work on the shopping centre a while back I believe
Ah yes, good point. Slipped my mind.
Was up in Pebble Mill a few weeks ago - still a total dump!
I've not been inside the Mailbox yet, but from all accounts it's tiny - can't imagine they'd be able to run network TV from there.
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A former member
You know, if the Queen did die...I doubt "graphics and crap" would be a critical issue.
Probably some respectable intro (no fancy animation...just a placard that said |B|B|C|, followed by the initial announcement, then that rendition of "God Save the King" that was played after Diana and the Queen Mother died.
After that, it'd be rolling news: reaction from the Prime Minister, politicians, world leaders, the Commonwealth, people on the street, etc.
The mood of national mourning would require all sorts of flashy animations to be toned down heavily. A period of reflection would occur. There would be lots of documentary pieces of the Queen's life.
And then, after the funeral, there would be endless talk about whether Charles would be next...and what sort of King he would make.
Am I correct in thinking that the BBC has already rehearsed what to do if the Queen died? It's my understanding that she has actually visited TVC several times over her reign to sort out the details of how the BBC will cover her death.
Probably some respectable intro (no fancy animation...just a placard that said |B|B|C|, followed by the initial announcement, then that rendition of "God Save the King" that was played after Diana and the Queen Mother died.
After that, it'd be rolling news: reaction from the Prime Minister, politicians, world leaders, the Commonwealth, people on the street, etc.
The mood of national mourning would require all sorts of flashy animations to be toned down heavily. A period of reflection would occur. There would be lots of documentary pieces of the Queen's life.
And then, after the funeral, there would be endless talk about whether Charles would be next...and what sort of King he would make.
Am I correct in thinking that the BBC has already rehearsed what to do if the Queen died? It's my understanding that she has actually visited TVC several times over her reign to sort out the details of how the BBC will cover her death.
BT
Am I correct in thinking that the BBC has already rehearsed what to do if the Queen died? It's my understanding that she has actually visited TVC several times over her reign to sort out the details of how the BBC will cover her death.
Yes, it's rehearsed regularly. No, Her Majesty doesn't attend the planning meetings! There has always been an element of discreet discussion between BBC Royal Liaison and Buckingham Palace on this sort of subject, but it does not involve face to face contact beween the BBC and HMQ.
Incidentally, BBC Royal Liaison has, for many years, been the responsibility of James Moir (outgoing Controller Radio 2).
Phileas Fogg posted:
Am I correct in thinking that the BBC has already rehearsed what to do if the Queen died? It's my understanding that she has actually visited TVC several times over her reign to sort out the details of how the BBC will cover her death.
Yes, it's rehearsed regularly. No, Her Majesty doesn't attend the planning meetings! There has always been an element of discreet discussion between BBC Royal Liaison and Buckingham Palace on this sort of subject, but it does not involve face to face contact beween the BBC and HMQ.
Incidentally, BBC Royal Liaison has, for many years, been the responsibility of James Moir (outgoing Controller Radio 2).