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BBC mish-mash of presentation, etc

(July 2006)

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IM
imaginativename
Another rant, but I really find that current BBC presentation in general is all over the place, and it really irritates me! BBC One - Four use box logos, whilst News 24 has one the same colour as BBC One (inspired) but with a huge BBC logo that looks out of proportion, whilst during the news itself, it uses a box with a blurred globe inside (looks messy). BBC Parliament uses the old, horizontal style logo, except on the BBC website (sometimes) where it has a dark red box (red again - original). The BBC Sport logo is a rectangle with the writing beside the logo, but with a bold font that doesn't look too nice. The BBC Four box is black on the channel but white on the website. International channels seem to use red boxes (why the obsession with red?) except on-screen (BBC America). The radio stations use quite original logos, and don't have a consistent look as the four main tv channels do, but the tv logos are bland by comparison. Some radio stations are 'BBC Radio...' whilst others don't use the 'radio' so that they sound like tv channels (BBC7). The news titles of Breakfast use boxes with clouds in them whilst the national news has ribbons which result in a formation around the globe that just looks odd, whilst regional news uses the older circular signals look. The news countdown and titles have no relationship to each other at all, and the BBC World box that appears at the end of its countdown clashes completely with the background. Newsnight is entirely different from the rest of the news package. Newsline uses opening titles which recall the 1950s titles of concentric signals, and its version of the BBC logo seems odd - I think the BBC letters are bigger on their boxes than the logo used elsewhere. North West tonight was for sometime intrdoduced with an almost pink BBC One box on the Tai Chi idents. All the channels' idents themselves are pretty uninspiring and boring with a box slapped on top. I could go on...the graphics just look so poor, messy and unprofessional, and not befitting a national and international giant like the BBC.... Grrrrrrr to them!! Evil or Very Mad
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tvmercia Founding member
i think you mean mishmash, not mix-mash

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=mishmash.

personally i prefer maggie mash, but never mind.
IM
imaginativename
I'm tired! Sorry...
PC
Paul Clark
Logo positioning on-screen; it seems like there are no rules when it comes to this.

BBC TWO, THREE and orginally FOUR all had their boxes bottom-right, while BBC ONE is given a bottom-left logo...There must be some logic behind that, no doubt, but I can't see it.

Perhaps that is picking at nits, and I had forgiven this; then last year, BBC FOUR rebranded in a style that requires the boxed logo to now be in the center of the screen...anywhere else, and it would probably be too obscuring.

Perhaps if the 1997 straight horizontal logo had been kept, it would allow for greater consistency, being IMO far less 'obtrusive' than the current boxed logo and simply more tidy - every channel with the logo -just text, no box - at the bottom-center.
RD
Rob Del Monte
I think the red and left is to do with flagship BBC, and the other channels are on the right, with different colours.

I personally like the B.B.C.2., and 3. presention.
I think the general rule is logos are boxed, and DOGs are horizontal,
but with B.B.C.3., using the vertical form, and BBC N.24. using their actual logo as a DOG.
AL
alisterj
i love channel 4
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Rob Del Monte posted:
I think the red and left is to do with flagship BBC, and the other channels are on the right, with different colours.

I personally like the BBC2., and 3. presention.
I think the general rule is logos are boxed, and DOGs are horizontal,
but with BBC3., using the vertical form, and BBC N.24. using their actual logo as a DOG.


Full stops after numbers now, Rob?

You're taking extraneous punctuation to dizzying new heights.
GE
thegeek Founding member
That's quite some rant.

You forgot BBC Food with its green box, and nasty green BBC One-style shutters at the end of promos. And the fact that the News 24 tower doesn't quite match the positioning of the BBC One block, though.
AN
Ant
Gavin Scott posted:
Rob Del Monte posted:
I think the red and left is to do with flagship BBC, and the other channels are on the right, with different colours.

I personally like the BBC2., and 3. presention.
I think the general rule is logos are boxed, and DOGs are horizontal,
but with BBC3., using the vertical form, and BBC N.24. using their actual logo as a DOG.


Full stops after numbers now, Rob?

You're taking extraneous punctuation to dizzying new heights.

Just be happy it isn't B. B. C. 1.

(Asa seems to have blocked BBC with dots after each letter).
SE
seamus
Well the N24 tower is not the logo. The logo is just News 24 or a red background, no logo.
IS
Inspector Sands
Inconsistancy will happen, because everything evolves over time.

Things move on, needs change, ideas change. You can't expect that introduce an on-air look for their services and keep every single element of it until the whole lot is changed many years down the line.

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