TV Home Forum

BBC making £34m investment in children's services

(July 2017)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
:-(
A former member
If you have to wonder if this is the start of a complete overhaul of the BBC from the bottom up, and will take the next 20-30 years to be complete?

Quote:
The BBC is to spend an extra £34m on children's content over the next three years.
The investment comes as plans were announced to reinvent the corporation "for a new generation" and combat competition from media giants like Netflix and Amazon.
Director general Tony Hall said it was "the biggest investment in children's services in a generation".
The funding was unveiled as part of the BBC's first Annual Plan.
Setting out the BBC's ambitions for the coming year, the extra money for children's content is going to be invested across the three years to 2019-20.
'Biggest investment for generation'
Lord Hall said: "Our ambition to reinvent the BBC for a new generation is our biggest priority for next year. Every part of the BBC will need to contribute to meeting this challenge."
The new investment, delivered following savings made across the BBC, will see the budget for children's programming reach £124.4m by 2019-20, up from the current figure of £110m.
In the three years, £31.4m will be spent online on content that will include video, live online programme extensions, blogs, vlogs, podcasts, quizzes, guides, games and apps.
BBC Children's in SalfordImage copyrightALAMY
Image caption
The BBC's children's services are based in Salford
Lord Hall said it was "the biggest investment for a generation" and will "increasingly offer a personalised online offering for our younger viewers".
The BBC said it wants to respond to changes to the way children "are watching and consuming programmes", adding: "Investment in British content - particularly for the young - is vital, unless we want more of our culture shaped and defined by the rise of West Coast American companies."
Grey line

Over the last six years, children's TV viewing has dropped by more than a quarter.
Youngsters now spend more time online than they do in front of the television, around 15 hours a week. Even pre-schoolers spend more than eight hours a week online, according to Ofcom.
Naturally then, the CBBC channel aimed at six to 12-year-olds has seen a drop in its audience, and increasingly children are choosing to use the BBC's iPlayer.
Viewing habits are changing, but so too is the content they are watching. Shorter video clips, interactive content and games are all going to increase.
The setting for all of this is a long-term decline in spending on British children's programmes by other broadcasters - ITV's programming went from 424 hours in 1998 to 64 in 2013 - and the dominance of US programming.

This will only increase in an online world dominated by the tech giants. Children's culture is being shaped by firms based on the west coast of America.
Grey line
The annual plan also explains how the BBC is aiming to tackle such challenges as "fake news" with BBC News's Reality Check being expanded to fact-check social media claims, and work being done alongside Facebook to build trust.
It also shows how the corporation will "rise to the challenge of better reflecting and representing a changing UK" and how it is focusing on personalisation.
The BBC's creative plans for the next 12 months also include:
A major season across TV, radio and online called Civilisations which will tell the story of art up to the present day

A year-long season of science and technology programmes called Tomorrow's World
Hull will continue to be showcased as UK City of Culture 2017
The annual plan is not the same as the BBC's annual report, which looks back over the previous year's performance and publishes details about the corporation's finances and spending. That report is expected later this month.
AN
all new Phil
Why would it take 20-30 years?
:-(
A former member
Why would it take 20-30 years?

My belief is the bbc will take this slowly and will just normalise its practice around this current generation so today 5-10 year olds will be tomorrows 25-30 years and BBC one will follow suit.
BR
Brekkie
Children watching less TV us surely not a bad thing and really don't see the point in the BBC investing in them only to drop them once they hit adolescence.

I think there is little argument within the industry that children's TV needs investment but I really think it needs to be through forcing the commercial sector to do more.
:-(
A former member
Children watching less TV us surely not a bad thing and really don't see the point in the BBC investing in them only to drop them once they hit adolescence. .


I think your mist the point, Kids may be watching less TV, but there watch ALOT more stuff on table and phones and laptops etc. Their eyes will be bad in years to become,.
VM
VMPhil
I'm not sure why they're only bringing up the Americanisation (or should that be Americanization?) problem now. For years the numerous kids channels like Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Disney have been made up of American imports and very little original British-made programming. And yet, amazingly, I didn't grow up with an American accent.
:-(
A former member
There must still have a problem from the days of Sesame street.
RI
Richard
I'm not sure why they're only bringing up the Americanisation (or should that be Americanization?) problem now. For years the numerous kids channels like Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Disney have been made up of American imports and very little original British-made programming. And yet, amazingly, I didn't grow up with an American accent.

That's unlikely to happen. Americanisns, however, seem to be on the rise in my experience.
Night Thoughts and Newsroom24 gave kudos
RI
Riaz
It looks like a very bold move but whether it achieves anything positive or successful remains to be seen. The big question is whether bosses in established British TV companies understand children and what they want to watch? Also, are they trying to please kids or please the regulators?

I agree with Brekkie that the commercial sector needs to do more rather than letting CBBC become a near monopoly.

Is Tomorrows World coming back from the dead? It was quite a popular programme amongst older children and teenagers even though it wasn't intended for this audience.
IS
Inspector Sands
There must still have a problem from the days of Sesame street.

Sesame Street was just one 1-hour programme, a lot different to the 24 hour channels pumping out American shows. Though there was concern over it when it first appeared on British TV


Sesame Street was never that popular over here was it? It was always tucked away in the schedules and don't think it was on everywhere. I've said before that as a child it was very odd watch, I didn't understand the odd references in it and the crappy film/NTSC quality made it look so different to anything else
IS
Inspector Sands
Riaz posted:

Is Tomorrows World coming back from the dead? It was quite a popular programme amongst older children and teenagers even though it wasn't intended for this audience.

It's back as a brand but not as a programme
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Sesame Street was never that popular over here was it? It was always tucked away in the schedules and don't think it was on everywhere. I've said before that as a child it was very odd watch, I didn't understand the odd references in it and the crappy film/NTSC quality made it look so different to anything else


I suspect its main problem was it was totally geared towards the American education system and we just never "got it". The BBC didn't want it and the commercial regulator had grave concerns about it too at the time. There was a report on it which I've never been able to find online - Reactions to Sesame Street in Britain 1971.

These days of course various characters, segments and what not were all spun-off and air quite happily on the various preschool channels - Cartoonito appear to be the most recent service to pick Sesame Street up but it doesn't appear in their schedule at the moment.

Newer posts