SP
It was clearly the right decision to stay with the studio, if you have someone of the stature of Radio 2's chief announcer already on air "commentating" on procedings there's very little point in pres taking over.
Particularly as the timings were so critical with the Eurovision, if pres had taken over getting the studio back on air would have required discussions with pres and a delay whilst Dean did an "I'm pleased to say that we can now rejoin..." announcement. Handling it the way they did just needed a cut on the vision mixer and the mics fading up.
Particularly as the timings were so critical with the Eurovision, if pres had taken over getting the studio back on air would have required discussions with pres and a delay whilst Dean did an "I'm pleased to say that we can now rejoin..." announcement. Handling it the way they did just needed a cut on the vision mixer and the mics fading up.
ST
studio security is strange, like i said about my one visit as part of a studio audience for help squad (C1992). during a break in recording we could use the toilet, etc, people could have just walked on set and asked parkinson for his autograph and nobody would have stopped them. Those who wanted to leave just got up and headed off for the toilets
what surprised me was when i exited the loos I was on my own, I could have gone where i liked and i had a camera in my pocket. Wouldn't have minded a sneaky peak at the coast to coast studio but i didn't have the guts to go nosing round so i just headed back to the studio i was meant to be in
then again that wasn't a live recording so maybe they weren't too concerned about audience security
funnyly enough there was more security at Granada studio tours when they were filming on the corry set and the houses were open, and that isn't even live
what surprised me was when i exited the loos I was on my own, I could have gone where i liked and i had a camera in my pocket. Wouldn't have minded a sneaky peak at the coast to coast studio but i didn't have the guts to go nosing round so i just headed back to the studio i was meant to be in
then again that wasn't a live recording so maybe they weren't too concerned about audience security
funnyly enough there was more security at Granada studio tours when they were filming on the corry set and the houses were open, and that isn't even live
MA
Alan D was superb; a true professional.
I recall him taking over during the BBC 1 Millennium programme. Parky and the rest of the presentation team were burbling on at one point, trying and failing to describe the scenes as the director cut around various celebrations in Europe. They were faded out, and Alan D took over.
Again, worth every penny he is paid.
Would he have been in a voice booth away from the studio floor last night, or somewhere behind the set with a lip mic ?
Steve in Pudsey posted:
It was clearly the right decision to stay with the studio, if you have someone of the stature of Radio 2's chief announcer already on air "commentating" on procedings there's very little point in pres taking over.
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Alan D was superb; a true professional.
I recall him taking over during the BBC 1 Millennium programme. Parky and the rest of the presentation team were burbling on at one point, trying and failing to describe the scenes as the director cut around various celebrations in Europe. They were faded out, and Alan D took over.
Again, worth every penny he is paid.
Would he have been in a voice booth away from the studio floor last night, or somewhere behind the set with a lip mic ?
AN
Alan D was superb; a true professional.
I recall him taking over during the BBC 1 Millennium programme. Parky and the rest of the presentation team were burbling on at one point, trying and failing to describe the scenes as the director cut around various celebrations in Europe. They were faded out, and Alan D took over.
Again, worth every penny he is paid.
Would he have been in a voice booth away from the studio floor last night, or somewhere behind the set with a lip mic ?
I would have thought he would be away from the studio in a booth. Otherwise, you would probably hear the shouting in the studio.
I just love the echo they put on the voice.
Markymark posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
It was clearly the right decision to stay with the studio, if you have someone of the stature of Radio 2's chief announcer already on air "commentating" on procedings there's very little point in pres taking over.
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Alan D was superb; a true professional.
I recall him taking over during the BBC 1 Millennium programme. Parky and the rest of the presentation team were burbling on at one point, trying and failing to describe the scenes as the director cut around various celebrations in Europe. They were faded out, and Alan D took over.
Again, worth every penny he is paid.
Would he have been in a voice booth away from the studio floor last night, or somewhere behind the set with a lip mic ?
I would have thought he would be away from the studio in a booth. Otherwise, you would probably hear the shouting in the studio.
I just love the echo they put on the voice.
SP
I think at one point he was in a dressing room, used as a makeshift announcer booth
SP
I think at one point he was in a dressing room, used as a makeshift announcer booth
IS
The show's handling of the situation, and Alan's in particular, was faultless. But it seems to me that Pres couldn't take over even if they needed to, due to the odd quirks of the automation system.
If what Eamonn said is right and these people did have flares, a chaotic situation could have seriously escalated. In which case Pres might have little choice BUT to take over, only to find "computer says no"...
As Marksi said, that's nonsense, a system that couldn't cut away from a live event at will wouldn't even be on air! Programmes underrun or overrun on a daily basis, they will be able to manually cut from them.
Putting slide up on the output and killing the sound is standard procedure for all live programmes (see for example the 'The Time The Place' link I posted earlier, it was just lucky in this case that there was a live mic with an announcer
'Pres' would have been asking the studio if they wanted to be taken off air, but wouldn't have done it unless absolutely necessary (i.e. if there was no way that the programme could continue). In this case with limited time before eurovision, taking them off air would have added an extra delay in putting them back on air (the delay of the PA in the studio telling pres, who have to tell the nations and then pres having to cut and cue the studio)
tvarksouthwest posted:
The show's handling of the situation, and Alan's in particular, was faultless. But it seems to me that Pres couldn't take over even if they needed to, due to the odd quirks of the automation system.
If what Eamonn said is right and these people did have flares, a chaotic situation could have seriously escalated. In which case Pres might have little choice BUT to take over, only to find "computer says no"...
As Marksi said, that's nonsense, a system that couldn't cut away from a live event at will wouldn't even be on air! Programmes underrun or overrun on a daily basis, they will be able to manually cut from them.
Putting slide up on the output and killing the sound is standard procedure for all live programmes (see for example the 'The Time The Place' link I posted earlier, it was just lucky in this case that there was a live mic with an announcer
'Pres' would have been asking the studio if they wanted to be taken off air, but wouldn't have done it unless absolutely necessary (i.e. if there was no way that the programme could continue). In this case with limited time before eurovision, taking them off air would have added an extra delay in putting them back on air (the delay of the PA in the studio telling pres, who have to tell the nations and then pres having to cut and cue the studio)
BT
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It varies according to which studio Lotto is in. Occasionally he's in a dressing room, but more commonly it's a little booth that's part of the gallery (what would be the Exec/Producer booth on a big show).
Alan D is a superb professional and, as last night showed, very good indeed at "winging it".
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Would he have been in a voice booth away from the studio floor last night, or somewhere behind the set with a lip mic ?
It varies according to which studio Lotto is in. Occasionally he's in a dressing room, but more commonly it's a little booth that's part of the gallery (what would be the Exec/Producer booth on a big show).
Alan D is a superb professional and, as last night showed, very good indeed at "winging it".
BT
In my days there, the Network Director, or the Announcer if the Net Dir wasn't there, would have the authority to take a studio off-air if what they were seeing on the output and hearing up the talkback led them to believe things were out of control. In the brave new world of Red Bee, have the employees of the Bee had the same authority vested in them ?
Perhaps a current Bee bod could shed light?
Inspector Sands posted:
'Pres' would have been asking the studio if they wanted to be taken off air, but wouldn't have done it unless absolutely necessary
In my days there, the Network Director, or the Announcer if the Net Dir wasn't there, would have the authority to take a studio off-air if what they were seeing on the output and hearing up the talkback led them to believe things were out of control. In the brave new world of Red Bee, have the employees of the Bee had the same authority vested in them ?
Perhaps a current Bee bod could shed light?
SP
It was to do with the timing of ticket sales closing and the show being on earlier to accommodate Eurovision
Joey K posted:
Don't they usually draw the Lotto and Lotto Extra before the final head-to-head on Jetset, so why didn't they do it that way last night as well?
It was to do with the timing of ticket sales closing and the show being on earlier to accommodate Eurovision