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BBC Lottery Draw studio invaded by Fathers4Justice

(May 2006)

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Westy2
Charlie Wells posted:
And it's a rare(ish) glimpse of the face behind the voice of the balls...
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/voiceoftheballs.jpg


Deadly's bro Ray has an animal shelter in Wythall, Worcestershire & he is regulary mentioned on BBC WM, where of course Deadly himself worked at in the late 70's, in their BBC Radio Birmingham days.

There might be a pic of Ray on the BBC Brum web site features page, in the Mollie Green animal collection section(if it's still up!)
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Inspector Sands
tvarksouthwest posted:

A BBC ONE pres slide would have been nice!


When there's a slide and announcer in the studio, what's the point of presentation taking over when all they could provide is a diffrent announcer and slide!?

It would have taken them longer to get back on air once the studio was ready again (time they didn't have) and could well have messed up the junction into Eurovision
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A former member
I don't believe it. I only found out about this on the 11PM BBC News, and I was watching the programme. I was watching the thunderball draw in the back room and left the room when the red thunderball was drawn and went into my lounge. By the time I put the other TV on, the incident was over and I just saw the Jet Set slide. I thought they were just wondering if there would be enough time to do the Lotto draws, but I was oblivious of the prostest. HTF did I miss that?!

Regarding the female protester, it was quite clear she wasn't a floor manager, as the lottery logo of the crossed fingers hand was dropped years ago.
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Nick Harvey Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
If these fathers had put as much effort into their relationships/marriages as they do their self-publicity, they might not be in a situation where they cannot see their children.

Wrong.
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stevek
too right it is wrong, in a lot of these divorce cases the mothers want the house the car the live in lover and the kids and just expect the father to sling his hook

it is cruel to the children, especially boys to be forced to be separated from their dad just because the parent have fallen out, as one bloke said it's my wife I'm divorcing not my kids.
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TC1
You know, I quite often have been to the lottery show (as well as many others at Television Centre) and it really does surprise me every time, especially of course on live shows, that there are no real "security measures" or staff directly near the audience.

The first lottery show I went to was about 5 or 6 years ago now, and was being presented from TC5 by Brian Connelly. It struck me then that if someone or a group of people wanted to disrupt the show, then they could easily just get out of their seat and literally walk onto the set - and wierdly enough, on my first lottery show this is exactly what happened - you may remember it - a streaker ran all over the set - Brian Connelly trying to cover him up! BUT - you would not believe the commotion and panic in the studio - I saw of course what was going on - absolute panic behind the camera's with the floor manager/production staff running everywhere - security staff then appearing from somewhere slowly, chasing this guy around the studio - completely surreal when you are sitting there thinking that this is going out to some 8 million or so viewers at home.

So, I can imagine what panic went on tonight - which was of course, alot more potentially serious.

The BBC do "scan" you (like an airport scanner) each time you enter the TVC entrance booth before you get on site - you are also made to empty pockets etc.. but - the lack of say security staff which I think should be stationed right by the audience seating is something I think the BBC will have to change - as I say - anyone can - and did tonight - again - simply get up and run straight on to the set without anyone stopping them BEFORE they get to the studio floor.

As I Say - perhaps now they will have to think again
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The TV Room
TC1 posted:
...the lack of say security staff which I think should be stationed right by the audience seating is something I think the BBC will have to change...


Nah...much better to spend millions recruiting and retaining autocue reading 'talent'.
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tvarksouthwest
The TV Room posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
A BBC ONE pres slide would have been nice!


Not sure I'd agree. Taking a programme off air should be a last resort.

The programme gallery and Alan D did a superb job keeping things going. With timings thrown out the window, I believe the production team on Jetset and Red Bee on the subsequent junction did an excellent job. I'm sure bicycle clips were attached in the Nations though.

The show's handling of the situation, and Alan's in particular, was faultless. But it seems to me that Pres couldn't take over even if they needed to, due to the odd quirks of the automation system.

If what Eamonn said is right and these people did have flares, a chaotic situation could have seriously escalated. In which case Pres might have little choice BUT to take over, only to find "computer says no"...
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tvarksouthwest
stevek posted:
too right it is wrong, in a lot of these divorce cases the mothers want the house the car the live in lover and the kids and just expect the father to sling his hook

it is cruel to the children, especially boys to be forced to be separated from their dad just because the parent have fallen out, as one bloke said it's my wife I'm divorcing not my kids.

Children should NEVER be used as pawns in a marriage breakdown, however, in some cases the mother may have good reason to keep the father away, or vice versa.

If the Tonight With Trevor McDonald expose was anything to go by, a lot of these so-called fathers' rights campaigners are just out to cause trouble.
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A former member
tvarksouthwest posted:
a lot of these so-called fathers' rights campaigners are just out to cause trouble.


Agreed. They're all a waste of space.
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tvarksouthwest
I wasn't implying all fathers' rights campaigners are troublemakers, unfortunately the actions of a few are tarring everyone with the same brush.
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The TV Room
tvarksouthwest posted:
But it seems to me that Pres couldn't take over even if they needed to, due to the odd quirks of the automation system.


This time last year, I may have found myself agreeing with you on that. However, I'd like to think the quirks with Colossus have been ironed out at this stage and that Red Bee staff could have handled taking the programme off air if the need arose. I'd like to think the Colossus operators have got to grips with the kit at this stage! Certainly, so far this year, I haven't spotted many pres cock-ups on BBC One Network.

tvarksouthwest posted:
If what Eamonn said is right and these people did have flares, a chaotic situation could have seriously escalated. In which case Pres might have little choice BUT to take over, only to find "computer says no"...


I don't have much knowledge of how Colossus hangs together but if manual intervention is that big of an issue, then that's a rather big flaw in my eyes.

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