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BBC Lottery Draw studio invaded by Fathers4Justice

(May 2006)

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TW
Time Warp
jason posted:
marksi posted:
jason posted:
Indeed. In fact I would potentially put Eamonn's fear down to his NI roots, where terrorism is instilled into people at an early age.


At the risk of being accused of repeating myself, absolute rubbish.


I have to say I'm surprised by that comment.

My father was brought up in Belfast, to a Catholic mother and Protestant father, and the family seemingly talked of nothing but the troubles, it tore the family apart. Every time there was a loud noise outside there was alarm, and I was told to keep my mouth shut when going through certain areas on account of my English accent.


Yes, but Northern Ireland terrorism is a whole different ball game to a few protesters jumping onto a set. Terrorism instils fear into everybody, not just those who are directly linked with it.
JA
jamesmd
jason posted:
marksi posted:
jason posted:
Indeed. In fact I would potentially put Eamonn's fear down to his NI roots, where terrorism is instilled into people at an early age.


At the risk of being accused of repeating myself, absolute rubbish.


I have to say I'm surprised by that comment.

My father was brought up in Belfast, to a Catholic mother and Protestant father, and the family seemingly talked of nothing but the troubles, it tore the family apart. Every time there was a loud noise outside there was alarm, and I was told to keep my mouth shut when going through certain areas on account of my English accent.


Mark's from Belfast. That's a bit closer. I'd therefore be 99.9999% sure he knows what he's talking about.
MA
marksi
James Hall posted:
Mark's from Belfast.


Not exactly, but not far away!

I'm not having a go at anyone (well, other than people who claim to know technical details about equipment they've never seen, never mind operated) but it's just that sometimes more can be read into a situation that exists in reality.

Eamonn's a broacaster with 30 years experience of live television and combined with Alan Dedicoat's professionalism it'd be hard to find a better combination of people to deal with the situation they found themselves in. Where any of them originate from is irrelevant.
LU
Luke
leaving aside all the talk about Northern Ireland - when exactly was Eamonn this beacon of professionalism? All i can see on the clip is him looking sheepish before shuffling off the stage. Sarah Cawood seems to be taking more of a lead together with Alan Dedicoat.
TW
Time Warp
Luke posted:
leaving aside all the talk about Northern Ireland - when exactly was Eamonn this beacon of professionalism? All i can see on the clip is him looking sheepish before shuffling off the stage. Sarah Cawood seems to be taking more of a lead together with Alan Dedicoat.


I guess as he was trying to focus away the protesters just as they began and then making a joke out of it when they were back on-air.
HA
harshy Founding member
marksi posted:
The fact that Eamonn is from Belfast has nothing to do with his ability to professionally conduct himself in a difficult live situation.


He looked like he was ready to do a runner, he even had a smirk on his face!
PT
Put The Telly On
Eamonn is useless unless of course he's given a script. He is not professional by any means and that showed last night.
GE
thegeek Founding member
Baroness Trumpington posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
'Pres' would have been asking the studio if they wanted to be taken off air, but wouldn't have done it unless absolutely necessary


In my days there, the Network Director, or the Announcer if the Net Dir wasn't there, would have the authority to take a studio off-air if what they were seeing on the output and hearing up the talkback led them to believe things were out of control. In the brave new world of Red Bee, have the employees of the Bee had the same authority vested in them ?

Perhaps a current Bee bod could shed light?
I believe the network directors have a certain amount of authority, but from 6am-1am there's also a Pres Editor on duty in the suite, who's trusted with all the major decisions across the BBC channels. They can escalate issues to the channel controller at the BBC if they see fit.

It is the network director who's got their finger on the button, though - but they've also got the benefit of hearing talkback from the studio to get an idea of whether they're still in control of proceedings.
JE
Jenny Founding member
harshy posted:
I am rather shocked by the security, from what we have seen anyone get into the BBC it seems, for fook sake we are living after 9/11


Are you? It's still only 21/5 where I am.
GM
nodnirG kraM
Let's face it the studio director kept the situation under control perfectly there was no need for Network pres to take the show off the air at all. And how, from a viewer's point of view, would a BBC One apology slide be better than a framestore of the JetSet logo?
GE
thegeek Founding member
Incidentally, regarding the comment about BBC security in studio recordings: TVC's a busy building, and can often have four or five different programmes being recorded on the one night. Getting security guards in for each of those programmes over and above the audience hospitality team could add a tidy sum to the cost of recording.

Though I'm sure there'll be a review of security at the audience entrance...

Cheers to Asa for the captures, by the way.
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tvarksouthwest
marksi posted:
I'm not having a go at anyone (well, other than people who claim to know technical details about equipment they've never seen, never mind operated)

So if anyone from outside your line of work has a theory, however wide of the mark, they get shouted down?

Insiders such as yourself are a valued part of TV Forum, you know first hand how things are done, we do not, I accept that. But is there any reason for such hostility to individuals' suggestions?

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