I wonder if LOVE Prod shot themselves in the foot. This move was handled so badly and kinda PR disaster for such a high profile international show. How can you announce a major move without securing the talent that presents the programme?
Quite easily. High profile talent deals are normally done at a channel level in the UK, not an indie or production dept level. Talent fees will depend on the channel - not the show. The production deal for the show was no doubt completed VERY quickly (in hours not days) once talks with the BBC broke down - leaving no time for the channel to even start talent deals.
I have watched a number of edited down repeated on The Good Food network and it's shocking to see how much is cut to make room for adverts. It'll be around 16 minutes. While I realise he current show- and repeats- are produced for the hour, the cut shows are too uncomfortable and the focus is completely on the judging not baking time. I'll be interested to see what C4 do... but it's destined to be the next come dine with me...
I have watched a number of edited down repeated on The Good Food network and it's shocking to see how much is cut to make room for adverts. It'll be around 16 minutes. While I realise he current show- and repeats- are produced for the hour, the cut shows are too uncomfortable and the focus is completely on the judging not baking time. I'll be interested to see what C4 do... but it's destined to be the next come dine with me...
I assume they'll drop the 'history' films which will save them a couple of minutes. Who knows they - they may make it a 75 or 90 minute slot so that it breathes in the same way. (Though not sure that sits with the announcement)
I wonder if LOVE Prod shot themselves in the foot. This move was handled so badly and kinda PR disaster for such a high profile international show. How can you announce a major move without securing the talent that presents the programme?
Quite easily. High profile talent deals are normally done at a channel level in the UK, not an indie or production dept level. Talent fees will depend on the channel - not the show. The production deal for the show was no doubt completed VERY quickly (in hours not days) once talks with the BBC broke down - leaving no time for the channel to even start talent deals.
I've just remembered another show that moved channels- Robot wars, which went to Channel 5. And died a death. And that's a show that took the presenters with it!
I've just remembered another show that moved channels- Robot wars, which went to Channel 5. And died a death. And that's a show that took the presenters with it!
I think that's a different situation, it was on its last legs by the time it came off BBC Two. I don't think Five promoted it a great deal from what I recall, could be wrong. Weird to think about it but somehow robots fighting each other lost its appeal over time!
I've just remembered another show that moved channels- Robot wars, which went to Channel 5. And died a death. And that's a show that took the presenters with it!
Craig Charles being one of them, who is also part of the more successful channel-hopping resurrection of
Red Dwarf
(from BBC Two to Dave).
Though I guess Red Dwarf again isn't a case of another channel snatching a format from another, the BBC weren't interested in another series despite the fan demand, so UKTV took it up instead.
The likes of This is your Life, Through the Keyhole and University Challenge hopped across channels for one reason or another, though in all cases they weren't really poached. There were reports of shows like Big Brother and Deal or No Deal being targets for ITV when rights were up for renewal, but nobody ever really took such reports too seriously.
What this does though is highlight how increasing independent productions is just pouring money out of the BBC. If Bake Off was a BBC format this wouldn't be an issue - until the Tories demand the BBC sell their own shows to the highest bidder.