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Because then people on this site would moan that everything was the same!
I think the lack of space is a part of it - when they had a desk in there (at the end of Newsroom Southeast) it looked awful. BBC London is quite an innovator (in terms of journalism, style and trimedia. Where it has led many of the other regions have followed . It's quite right that London should continue to take the lead
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Blob posted:
Why can't BBC London News adopt the presentation on the rest of the regions.
Because then people on this site would moan that everything was the same!
I think the lack of space is a part of it - when they had a desk in there (at the end of Newsroom Southeast) it looked awful. BBC London is quite an innovator (in terms of journalism, style and trimedia. Where it has led many of the other regions have followed . It's quite right that London should continue to take the lead
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The Studio does seem to be a bit better today. Different shots being used also.
They've had more time to play around and experiment with the set today.
Shame there isn't a cap of the London Eye bigscreen shot from today..... that was fab!
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martinDTanderson posted:
The Studio does seem to be a bit better today. Different shots being used also.
They've had more time to play around and experiment with the set today.
Shame there isn't a cap of the London Eye bigscreen shot from today..... that was fab!
BE
They're not very generous with their camera angles, are they - after the titles they just cut straight to the close-up shot of Nina against one of the frosted glass walls. It could look so much more impressive if they had an opening shot of the whole studio, and Nina was standing in front of the projection screen. Is there a reason why they only use the screen for the travel updates in the morning, and on the six? Or could the shorter updates be planned to come from the renovated downstairs area, so they're keeping it plain for the moment?
BB
My mum called me last night, absolutely livid - turns out she stopped off at the local Total service station to buy a 2-litre bottle of Coke. Mum's not done this in a while, and was shocked that it cost one hundred and ninety-nine of her hard-earned English pennies. LIVID.
Society's going down the pan, it really is.
DAS posted:
A 2 litre bottle of Irn-Bru costs £1.09.
My mum called me last night, absolutely livid - turns out she stopped off at the local Total service station to buy a 2-litre bottle of Coke. Mum's not done this in a while, and was shocked that it cost one hundred and ninety-nine of her hard-earned English pennies. LIVID.
Society's going down the pan, it really is.
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Haven't seen the set, just seen the new titles. I do wonder why people are mourning the death of the LDN brand. It's an awful brand. There was a debate going on here for about a year trying to work out what it stood for; was it 'London District News', was it an abbreviation of 'London News' etc. And then the actual answer to the question, that it's just a contraction of 'LonDoN' was even worse than the thought that it stood for something.
A brand made even worse when despite 'LDN' appearing all over the place onscreen, it was to my knowledge never referred to as such in the programme.
Dropping it for the actual word is imo and improvement.
But, there are some changes that need to be made. Firstly, the ident needs to read 'BBC ONE London' and not 'BBC ONE LONDON'. It just doesn't look right when all the other regions don't do this (and indeed BBC London itself didn't when it was launched - LDN appeared in the dying days of the baloons and the London regional variant did not have London in capitals). I don't believe anyone thought it was better that way (no capitals because it's the capital rubbish - if that follows through then surely Wales and Scotland should be allowed to be WALES and SCOTLAND - or are Londoners so pretentious that they think their city is more important than entire countries?), it's just a quick re-edit and it's what was typed.
But it doesn't work and does need to be changed as a matter of some urgency.
On the titles themselves, I don't have a problem with the way it looks, but maybe it's time to actual put the name of the programme on, and call it 'London News'? I know they are trying to brand all London regional output with the same name, but again they only ever say 'London News' within the programme. They could still have the 'on TV on Radio online' strap, but then at the end of the titles this could somehow transform into 'News' to make the titles read 'London News'
As I said I haven't seen the set so I have no comments there. I think getting rid of LDN was a good idea, but I think they need a bit more tweaking yet to make it's replacement work properly.
A brand made even worse when despite 'LDN' appearing all over the place onscreen, it was to my knowledge never referred to as such in the programme.
Dropping it for the actual word is imo and improvement.
But, there are some changes that need to be made. Firstly, the ident needs to read 'BBC ONE London' and not 'BBC ONE LONDON'. It just doesn't look right when all the other regions don't do this (and indeed BBC London itself didn't when it was launched - LDN appeared in the dying days of the baloons and the London regional variant did not have London in capitals). I don't believe anyone thought it was better that way (no capitals because it's the capital rubbish - if that follows through then surely Wales and Scotland should be allowed to be WALES and SCOTLAND - or are Londoners so pretentious that they think their city is more important than entire countries?), it's just a quick re-edit and it's what was typed.
But it doesn't work and does need to be changed as a matter of some urgency.
On the titles themselves, I don't have a problem with the way it looks, but maybe it's time to actual put the name of the programme on, and call it 'London News'? I know they are trying to brand all London regional output with the same name, but again they only ever say 'London News' within the programme. They could still have the 'on TV on Radio online' strap, but then at the end of the titles this could somehow transform into 'News' to make the titles read 'London News'
As I said I haven't seen the set so I have no comments there. I think getting rid of LDN was a good idea, but I think they need a bit more tweaking yet to make it's replacement work properly.
DO
Cause most of the other regional ones are crap.
Well, I'd beg to differ.
I'd rather watch almost any of the other regions' local programming, in place of L(ON)D(O)N, finding them less tricksy, and simply better made. Sadly, watching Look East doesn't tell me anything about my local news, though.
If there was a prize for gratuitous use of dreadful DVE effects, I think last night's L(ON)D(O)N would be a shoo-in. I'd far rather watch a well-shot, intelligently-written item about <INSERT SUBJECT HERE> than the kind of College TV nonsense which is getting trotted out on this service.
Rant over.
If you reread my answer, you'll see that i was responding to the point about regionsl titles only, not programmes.
CharlieMouse posted:
Dog posted:
Blob posted:
Why can't BBC London News adopt the presentation on the rest of the regions.
Cause most of the other regional ones are crap.
Well, I'd beg to differ.
I'd rather watch almost any of the other regions' local programming, in place of L(ON)D(O)N, finding them less tricksy, and simply better made. Sadly, watching Look East doesn't tell me anything about my local news, though.
If there was a prize for gratuitous use of dreadful DVE effects, I think last night's L(ON)D(O)N would be a shoo-in. I'd far rather watch a well-shot, intelligently-written item about <INSERT SUBJECT HERE> than the kind of College TV nonsense which is getting trotted out on this service.
Rant over.
If you reread my answer, you'll see that i was responding to the point about regionsl titles only, not programmes.
NE
Possible with glassy studios, but I'm sure no one want's to see
NORTH WEST TONIGHT
Hymagumba posted:
didn't I reply to this post? Stupid internet.
Well after this latest botched revamp let's hope they don't.
Larry of evilness posted:
The other regions should follow London or words to that effect I can't be bothered to reread
Well after this latest botched revamp let's hope they don't.
Possible with glassy studios, but I'm sure no one want's to see
NORTH WEST TONIGHT
ED
this look is similar to South Today, but less dodgy.
i still don't understand why they didn't keep with the regional look when newsroom south east collapsed - i believed it was to be called London Live (as in London LIve 94.9) with the maps spinning round. they just scrapped it. unique would be good if it looked any good. this doesn't.
now that they have a desk, can we have 2 presenters now? are bbc london having difficulty getting presenters?
emily maitlis and asad ahmed or get an all feminine duo. or one of those rare presenters that do friday/weekends.
btw, what's happened to mike ramsden?
i still don't understand why they didn't keep with the regional look when newsroom south east collapsed - i believed it was to be called London Live (as in London LIve 94.9) with the maps spinning round. they just scrapped it. unique would be good if it looked any good. this doesn't.
now that they have a desk, can we have 2 presenters now? are bbc london having difficulty getting presenters?
emily maitlis and asad ahmed or get an all feminine duo. or one of those rare presenters that do friday/weekends.
btw, what's happened to mike ramsden?
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Strange isn't it, a week ago everyone liked that title sequence, now with just the end bit changed it's the worst thing ever in television
They decided on an original look because they wanted to make an impact and be a bit diffrent. I thik that they (the launch editors) also wanted to get away from the usual local news tweeness - hence the innovation in terms of presentation and story-telling.
btw, what's happened to mike ramsden?
Heard him on Radio 1 recently
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edward posted:
i still don't understand why they didn't keep with the regional look when newsroom south east collapsed - i believed it was to be called London Live (as in London LIve 94.9) with the maps spinning round. they just scrapped it. unique would be good if it looked any good. this doesn't.
Strange isn't it, a week ago everyone liked that title sequence, now with just the end bit changed it's the worst thing ever in television
They decided on an original look because they wanted to make an impact and be a bit diffrent. I thik that they (the launch editors) also wanted to get away from the usual local news tweeness - hence the innovation in terms of presentation and story-telling.
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btw, what's happened to mike ramsden?
Heard him on Radio 1 recently