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"BBC Must Learn From Mistakes"

Major speech by Lord Hall (August 2020)

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Jonwo

As regards the fantasy bit my last couple of posts have ben focused on making the BBC more relevant.

There's making things relevant and then there's ideas that just simply won't work in the real world.
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Ne1L C
Jonwo posted:

As regards the fantasy bit my last couple of posts have ben focused on making the BBC more relevant.

There's making things relevant and then there's ideas that just simply won't work in the real world.


How then would you make the bbc more relevant?
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all new Phil
Relevant to who? It’s literally the biggest and widest-reaching broadcaster in the uk.
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Ne1L C
What I’m saying is if the bbc is to regain the trust that it’s lost in the last few years then what steps does it need to take. Where does it need to invest, does it need to overhaul its news. What about programming, the licence fee?
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Markymark
What I’m saying is if the bbc is to regain the trust that it’s lost in the last few years then what steps does it need to take. Where does it need to invest, does it need to overhaul its news. What about programming, the licence fee?


I'm not sure the BBC has lost trust with the audience? I don't exactly sense rioting (or conversely jubilation) in the streets over them?
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JamesWorldNews
What I’m saying is if the bbc is to regain the trust that it’s lost in the last few years then what steps does it need to take. Where does it need to invest, does it need to overhaul its news. What about programming, the licence fee?


I'm not sure the BBC has lost trust with the audience? I don't exactly sense rioting (or conversely jubilation) in the streets over them?


I was literally thinking the same thing moments ago, Mark. Sure, the BBC has issues, like any organisation does. But I’m not sure “trust” is one of them.

Would anyone care to list (very briefly and without digression into fantasy or tangential history) what they consider the top two problems the BBC “has”? I’m genuinely interested. And genuinely wonder what’s creating the sensational “anti-BBCism” all of a sudden.

I’ll start. Two points only:

1) Trying to be everything to everyone;
2) To use a favourite phrase of an old boss of mine: “an elephant trying to run with the cheetahs”. (Too much unhealthy bureaucracy that ties itself in knots).
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Steve in Pudsey
1) A lack of backbone in responding to trivial complaints and pile-ons rather then backing its people. (See the wonderful clip of Malcolm Eynon issuing a BBC apology to Denzil Davis MP, for offence caused by the previous week's Jasper Carroty show taking the piss out of him. It was really skillfully written to sound like an apology but with a definite subtext of "that's how comedy works, everyone knows that, get over yourself". The modern BBC just doesn't do that.)

2) Doing things that the commercial sector could do just as well. Match of the Day (and Lineker's salary) could go to any FTA broadcaster.
Markymark and all new Phil gave kudos
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Ne1L C
1. Trying to copy commercial television especially when it comes to talent contests such as the voice on BBC 1 VS BGT on itv.

2.This is an esoteric point but a lack of clear english in some of their statements. A similar thread on here over the potential loss of the six o clock news referred to ecology of news or something similar.
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noggin Founding member
1. Trying to copy commercial television especially when it comes to talent contests such as the voice on BBC 1 VS BGT on itv.

Arguably this has already happened. The BBC decided not to continue with The Voice in 2015, with their last series running in 2016 I believe.

AIUI the BBC no longer is going to be in the market for buying an expensive format in competition with ITV/C4/C5.
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gottago
1. Trying to copy commercial television especially when it comes to talent contests such as the voice on BBC 1 VS BGT on itv.

Arguably this has already happened. The BBC decided not to continue with The Voice in 2015, with their last series running in 2016 I believe.

AIUI the BBC no longer is going to be in the market for buying an expensive format in competition with ITV/C4/C5.

They were outbid by ITV for the rights to The Voice (no doubt helped by ITV buying the rights holders).

The BBC are still very much in the market for big formats. They've just bought what could be the next Masked Singer from Korea called I Can See Your Voice which is selling up around the world ahead of the US premiere. They were also in a bidding war with C4 for Taskmaster which pushed the price right up and C4 is paying well over the odds for it as a result.
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Ne1L C
And therein lies the issue.Yes these talent contests are very popular and have led to bidding wars.

This is a subjective view but if the bbc is seeking a distinctive identity then surely it would be better investing in something not British as such but something that makes it stand out on the multi channel market.
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Stuart
The BBC are still very much in the market for big formats. They've just bought what could be the next Masked Singer from Korea called I Can See Your Voice which is selling up around the world ahead of the US premiere. They were also in a bidding war with C4 for Taskmaster which pushed the price right up and C4 is paying well over the odds for it as a result.

Blimey, no wonder viewing figures are in the gutter with such drivel on offer. I'm wondering whether I should just stick with paying for Netflix/Amazon and move away from linear TV altogether.

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