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Brekkie34,814 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
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I suspect that sort of thing might stay on BBC4. Obviously a few hoops to be jumped before all this can happen and I suspect they'd struggle to justify a channel with absolutely zero new content.
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chris4,384 posts since 6 Jul 2005
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A question re the Proms - up until now, BBC Four has shown the vast majority of the televised concerts and I’d estimate that they show between 20-30 of the concerts televised.

Where do these go now? BBC Two? If so, great, wonderful news!

Streamed only? In that case, why not put them on the linear BBC Four channel too, seeing as they are being produced anyway?

Only the concerts that have been on BBC Two will continue to be televised? Surely not! That’s only two concerts, the first and the last night.

Genuinely interested to see what the answer to this will be.

Glad to see that arts and music commissions are heading to BBC Two - bring that on.


Don’t see why special live programming would be affected.
Ne1L C1,821 posts since 11 Sep 2011
Hmm. It's a surprising move but one that I welcome. I've always felt that BBC1 is a mass market popular station while BBC 2 should be far more select (but not snobby or elitist).

"Archive" can mean all sorts of things. It can veer from "GOLD" retro programming to programmes such as "The Forsyte Saga". Not sure what to think about this Confused

I read the BBC4 changes as this: the channel will essentially target the same audience with the same range of programmes but with the range of archive shows they broadcast tweaked a bit wider to help fill the gaps from the lack of new programmes. I expect all the new arts programmes that will now air first on BBC2 will probably be repeated endlessly on BBC4 and by and large it will feel like the same channel, just nothing will be new any more.

The global SVOD idea is interesting though I assume it will be called BBC Arts or something similar rather than BBC4. Maybe they're taking their cue from Walter Presents which has been rolled out internationally.



Thats an equally viable analysis. I have to say though that if BBC4 is transformed into a station which BBC2 simply offloads its arts programming then it would be a real waste of an opportunity to give both BBC2 and 4 true individuality.We will have to wait and see

Off the top of my head though I can't imagine what form the SVOD will take.
AlexS926 posts since 19 Oct 2016
Central (East) Midlands Today
A question re the Proms - up until now, BBC Four has shown the vast majority of the televised concerts and I’d estimate that they show between 20-30 of the concerts televised.

Where do these go now? BBC Two? If so, great, wonderful news!

Streamed only? In that case, why not put them on the linear BBC Four channel too, seeing as they are being produced anyway?

Only the concerts that have been on BBC Two will continue to be televised? Surely not! That’s only two concerts, the first and the last night.

Genuinely interested to see what the answer to this will be.

Glad to see that arts and music commissions are heading to BBC Two - bring that on.

I imagine one or two will move to BBC Two while the rest will no longer produced for TV.
JamesLaverty1925236 posts since 28 Feb 2017
Central (East) East Midlands Today
A question re the Proms - up until now, BBC Four has shown the vast majority of the televised concerts and I’d estimate that they show between 20-30 of the concerts televised.

Where do these go now? BBC Two? If so, great, wonderful news!

Streamed only? In that case, why not put them on the linear BBC Four channel too, seeing as they are being produced anyway?

Only the concerts that have been on BBC Two will continue to be televised? Surely not! That’s only two concerts, the first and the last night.

Genuinely interested to see what the answer to this will be.

Glad to see that arts and music commissions are heading to BBC Two - bring that on.


I reckon they'll film more for highlights shows, or even film whole concerts and have them popping up anytime of year. Will be a shame if less are televised though, I attend a few every year and there's always a little extra buzz about the televised ones.
Hatton Cross3,554 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Apparently not.
There's a piece in the latest Private Eye questioning why it's not been cancelled - as it's pretty much the only major music festival this summer that hasn't been.

There's a thought that they are holding out for a smaller festival in late August and September, mostly held behind closed doors - but one of two may have a restricted 'by invite only' audience.

It then goes onto say one idea floated around, by the Dept Culture Media and Sport was to run the BBC Proms as a subscription based streaming event - which the supporters of a licence fee, should be very afraid of.
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valley122 posts since 9 Feb 2020
Just wondering out loud but any info out there on the budget for all of Sky's new channels and their entertainment slate in general? Would just be interesting to compare.


Approximately £700m across their entire entertainment slate and it is increasing due to Comcast investment (well, it was before CV). In excess of £6bn in total but a lot of that is for sport rights...
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Brekkie34,814 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
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So about the budget of BBC1 then. Sky obviously still see the benefit of using linear channels as umbrella brands for their linear content, so that shows there is still very much value in the product. The BBC can't spread content too thinly or prop up a schedule with imports but arguably better to have 3 hours of new content a night on BBC2 and one hour on BBC4 than four hours of new content on BBC2.
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RDJ2,975 posts since 25 Oct 2003
Central (South) Midlands Today
A (large) BBC Three DOG is being used currently on Stacey Dooley: Lockdown Heros on BBC One right now.

Are they trying to get BBC Three’s prominence on the rise on a prime time BBC One show? They even used the BBC Three ident before.
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Steve Williams3,153 posts since 1 Aug 2008
Are they trying to get BBC Three’s prominence on the rise on a prime time BBC One show? They even used the BBC Three ident before.


They always use the BBC3 ident before BBC3 shows on BBC1. They're doing it before Normal People.