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chris
bilky asko posted:
AlexS posted:
Furthermore, in the case of students the terms and conditions of Netflix will typically allow a group of students living in the same property to share one account while the BBC expects each individual student to pay their own licence fee which further adds to the imbalance in pricing between the two options.


This is untrue. If you are a student, you are only required to pay for a separate TV Licence if you are wanting to watch in your own room if you have a separate tenancy agreement for your room or you are living in halls. A single licence will cover a shared living space in that scenario. If the tenancy agreement is a joint one, then only one licence is required.

Sharing one account is all well and good if nobody at all wants to watch something as the same time as someone else.


I don’t think it’s tenancy agreements that are the issue - it’s whether your room has a separate address.

But that’s beside the point. The vast majority of first year students live in halls and are unfairly penalised for the design of their living space, at a time when they have little disposable income. And then once they’ve no TV licence that year, why get one the following?
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bilky asko
chris posted:
bilky asko posted:
AlexS posted:
Furthermore, in the case of students the terms and conditions of Netflix will typically allow a group of students living in the same property to share one account while the BBC expects each individual student to pay their own licence fee which further adds to the imbalance in pricing between the two options.


This is untrue. If you are a student, you are only required to pay for a separate TV Licence if you are wanting to watch in your own room if you have a separate tenancy agreement for your room or you are living in halls. A single licence will cover a shared living space in that scenario. If the tenancy agreement is a joint one, then only one licence is required.

Sharing one account is all well and good if nobody at all wants to watch something as the same time as someone else.


I don’t think it’s tenancy agreements that are the issue - it’s whether your room has a separate address


That was taken from TV Licencing themselves.
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chris
bilky asko posted:
chris posted:
bilky asko posted:

This is untrue. If you are a student, you are only required to pay for a separate TV Licence if you are wanting to watch in your own room if you have a separate tenancy agreement for your room or you are living in halls. A single licence will cover a shared living space in that scenario. If the tenancy agreement is a joint one, then only one licence is required.

Sharing one account is all well and good if nobody at all wants to watch something as the same time as someone else.


I don’t think it’s tenancy agreements that are the issue - it’s whether your room has a separate address


That was taken from TV Licencing themselves.


Ah my apologies. I clearly broke the law endlessly as a student. Woops.
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rob Founding member
chris posted:
Ah my apologies. I clearly broke the law endlessly as a student. Woops.


Nice knowing you... Wink Wink
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Ne1L C
Hmm. It's a surprising move but one that I welcome. I've always felt that BBC1 is a mass market popular station while BBC 2 should be far more select (but not snobby or elitist).

"Archive" can mean all sorts of things. It can veer from "GOLD" retro programming to programmes such as "The Forsyte Saga". Not sure what to think about this Confused
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natwel27
They could show some Classic Doctor Who episodes seeing as for the moment they have just been dumped over on Britbox.
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Ne1L C
natwel27 posted:
They could show some Classic Doctor Who episodes seeing as for the moment they have just been dumped over on Britbox.


Well they could do but seeing as the BBC currently own 50% of Britbox wouldn't that be a waste of money. AIUI one of the attractions of Britbox is the existing Dr Who library being available. Would you pay £5.99 a month for a sub or watch it for free?
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Whataday Founding member
The BBC own 10% of BritBox don't they?
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Square Eyes Founding member
It's 10% in UK

50% outside of UK
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gottago
Ne1L C posted:
Hmm. It's a surprising move but one that I welcome. I've always felt that BBC1 is a mass market popular station while BBC 2 should be far more select (but not snobby or elitist).

"Archive" can mean all sorts of things. It can veer from "GOLD" retro programming to programmes such as "The Forsyte Saga". Not sure what to think about this Confused

I read the BBC4 changes as this: the channel will essentially target the same audience with the same range of programmes but with the range of archive shows they broadcast tweaked a bit wider to help fill the gaps from the lack of new programmes. I expect all the new arts programmes that will now air first on BBC2 will probably be repeated endlessly on BBC4 and by and large it will feel like the same channel, just nothing will be new any more.

The global SVOD idea is interesting though I assume it will be called BBC Arts or something similar rather than BBC4. Maybe they're taking their cue from Walter Presents which has been rolled out internationally.
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madmusician
A question re the Proms - up until now, BBC Four has shown the vast majority of the televised concerts and I’d estimate that they show between 20-30 of the concerts televised.

Where do these go now? BBC Two? If so, great, wonderful news!

Streamed only? In that case, why not put them on the linear BBC Four channel too, seeing as they are being produced anyway?

Only the concerts that have been on BBC Two will continue to be televised? Surely not! That’s only two concerts, the first and the last night.

Genuinely interested to see what the answer to this will be.

Glad to see that arts and music commissions are heading to BBC Two - bring that on.
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robertclark125
madmusician posted:
A question re the Proms - up until now, BBC Four has shown the vast majority of the televised concerts and I’d estimate that they show between 20-30 of the concerts televised.

Where do these go now? BBC Two? If so, great, wonderful news!

Streamed only? In that case, why not put them on the linear BBC Four channel too, seeing as they are being produced anyway?

Only the concerts that have been on BBC Two will continue to be televised? Surely not! That’s only two concerts, the first and the last night.

Genuinely interested to see what the answer to this will be.

Glad to see that arts and music commissions are heading to BBC Two - bring that on.


Possibly on the red button?

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