My first thoughts about this were - great. But then I started to think about the trick the Beeb could pull.
In effect, you could have end credits lasting around 10-15 seconds, with only the presenters/main cast, exec producer/director/producer/editor credited, a static caption saying
Full credits at bbc.co.uk/progname
And in the other spare 20 seconds where the production crews name used to scroll, could be used to run another promo..
In one hand they give us, but they taketh away with the other...!
Just out of interest why do people care if credits are squeezed?
99% of the population don't read them anyway.
I don't care who done the make up on Eastenders.
You have proof of this claim? Where are the survey results?
The credits are PART of the programme, as is the music. It's wrong to remove or reduce either. You wouldn't be happy if the whole programme was squeezed into a quarter screen or squashed beyond recognition, would you?
I must admit I rarely read the credits, but as you say I like a natural conclusion to the programme.
I've no problem with ECPs which are done well - but the BBC's simply aren't - and were basically a step back to what was happening a decade ago. All the standardised layouts and generic credit things bought in since were designed to avoid reducing the credits to a small box on the screen.
I don't understand why, in this age of imminent digital switch over and multi-channel options, we need ECPs of any kind.
I don't think we'd ever go back to the practice of giving something like Casualty a credits sequence lasting over a minute, but I do believe the time has now come to allow programmes to broadcast uninterrupted, bespoke credits that do not have to conform to any transmission guidelines or time constraints.
I don't understand why, in this age of imminent digital switch over and multi-channel options, we need ECPs of any kind.
It's because there are more options and more competition that ECPs exsist. The broadcasters want to attract your attention and promote their stuff before we turn over
Not sure how you connect digital switch over with ECPs
The old way was so much better, IMO. Half the screen for ECP and half the screen for credits. It worked fine - why change it?
Incidentally I never see BBC One Scotland showing the quarter screen version these days (whenever I tune in anyway). So if you need to see the credits go to that.
Hopefully things won't go the same way as some American shows. The Daily Show, for example, rarely show their full credits. Once a fortnight is being generous. Normally they just show the extreme basics.
I wouldn't get too excited. Chances are there will still be an annoying squeeze of some kind and someone talking all over the credits. It annoys the hell out of me that Five completely ruin the already short Neighbours credits with pointless chatter and stuff. Dont think i've ever seen or heard the end titles of Neighbours in the whole time its been on Five yet.
The old way was so much better, IMO. Half the screen for ECP and half the screen for credits. It worked fine - why change it?
Incidentally I never see BBC One Scotland showing the quarter screen version these days (whenever I tune in anyway). So if you need to see the credits go to that. Hopefully it won't go the same way as some American shows. The Daily Show, for example, rarely show their full credits. Once a fortnight is being generous.
Normally they just show the extreme basics.
BBC 1 Scotland dumped the ECP 2 weeks after it started.
Not sure how you connect digital switch over with ECPs
Because there are inumerable channels vying for your attention now, so it almost seems pointless to try and promote one or two other programmes made by a particular broadcaster when the viewer has hundreds of channels to choose from and, indeed, has probably already made their evening's choices from them. I always assumed that once every household received digital that such blanket policies to ECP would cease, because of the sheer volume of channel surfing that is likely to be generated by virtue of having unprecedented choice at one's fingertips.
Because there are inumerable channels vying for your attention now, so it almost seems pointless to try and promote one or two other programmes made by a particular broadcaster when the viewer has hundreds of channels to choose from and, indeed, has probably already made their evening's choices from them. I always assumed that once every household received digital that such blanket policies to ECP would cease, because of the sheer volume of channel surfing that is likely to be generated by virtue of having unprecedented choice at one's fingertips.
Surely if there's more choice you need to advertise your offerings more, not less. There are thousands of programmes on TV every day, if a broadcaster wants the viewers to watch a particular programme they have to do all they can to tell them about it.
By your logic they'd have been doing ECPs and IPPs and all the current promotional stuff back when there were only 3 channels.
