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Moz5,552 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Wales Today
ITV Wales News has had a view of Cardiff Bay since the 2004 relaunch at least.


Yea but everyone in North Wales (that can), watch BBC NW and Granada don't they? 🤔

I’d have thought that the people of North Wales would have been especially adverse to English television.

(not hating, not stereotyping, I am half Welsh)


Not sure why. I'm from North Wales and we always preferred to watch North West Tonight. Liverpool and Manchester are far closer to us than Cardiff.
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Jacq19 posts since 3 Sep 2019
HTV Wales Wales Today

Yea but everyone in North Wales (that can), watch BBC NW and Granada don't they? 🤔

I’d have thought that the people of North Wales would have been especially adverse to English television.

(not hating, not stereotyping, I am half Welsh)


Not sure why. I'm from North Wales and we always preferred to watch North West Tonight. Liverpool and Manchester are far closer to us than Cardiff.



It was always a thing when we still had Analogue, that a lot of people in North Wales, especially North-East Wales, got a much better signal from BBC across the border.

Same for ITV. I'm originally from Colwyn Bay, and we had a perfect Granada signal, whereas HTV was really fuzzy.

That might have also had something to do with it.

(Depending on the weather obviously. On clear days in the summer, I could occasionally pick up BBC Ulster on the portable in my bedroom, and that was with a coathanger aerial, and we had much more stable Welsh channels on those days.)
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newsnet7 posts since 10 Mar 2020 new member
HTV Wales Wales Today
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"
commseng392 posts since 8 Dec 2016
London London
To be fair a lot of buildings were built specifically by the BBC.
Broadcasting House
TV Centre
Pebble Mill
New Broadcasting House, Manchester
Llandaff
Fenham Barracks
To name a few built before 1990.
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Spencer (previously Spencer For Hire) 6,112 posts since 13 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"


I’m not convinced the BBC wouldn’t still be facing the current pressures had they remained at Television Centre.

And those I know who’ve worked at New Broadcasting House certainly wouldn’t describe it as perfect.
Michael4,098 posts since 5 Sep 2005
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"



It most certainly is necessary.

There's no Pret a Manger or Greggs at the one in Llandaff.
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commseng392 posts since 8 Dec 2016
London London
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"


I’m not convinced the BBC wouldn’t still be facing the current pressures had they remained at Television Centre.

And those I know who’ve worked at New Broadcasting House certainly wouldn’t describe it as perfect.

Did they work at what was there beforehand?
What did they make of the Piccadilly building, the old church in Dickenson Road, and several other buildings scattered around Manchester?
Certainly when I was at Pebble Mill nobody spoke fondly of the days at Broad Street, Gosta Green or Carpenter Road etc.
Now the purpose built building has gone, once again there is a seperate site for drama from everything else, which has been squeezed into a smaller space.

EDIT - just re-reading that about New Broadcasting House - did you mean the New in 1976 Manchester one now demolished, or the sort of renamed BH in London?
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Mike W4,989 posts since 30 Apr 2006
London London
[quote="commseng" pid="1216287"]
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
/quote]

I’m not convinced the BBC wouldn’t still be facing the current pressures had they remained at Television Centre.

And those I know who’ve worked at New Broadcasting House certainly wouldn’t describe it as perfect.

Did they work at what was there beforehand?
What did they make of the Piccadilly building, the old church in Dickenson Road, and several other buildings scattered around Manchester?
Certainly when I was at Pebble Mill nobody spoke fondly of the days at Broad Street, Gosta Green or Carpenter Road etc.
Now the purpose built building has gone, once again there is a seperate site for drama from everything else, which has been squeezed into a smaller space.

EDIT - just re-reading that about New Broadcasting House - did you mean the New in 1976 Manchester one now demolished, or the sort of renamed BH in London?

I think they meant NBH, W1A

By all accounts it has rodents (always would being in the middle of London, and some of the building being subsurface), and is prone to leaks.
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