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BBC confirms ditching Children's programmes from BBC1, BBC2 (May 2012)

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Brekkie
chris posted:
I have to asked has the BBC given up on BBC Switch?........


They have. The reason behind it was because that demographic are apparently catered for well enough by other broadcasters such as Channel 4.

Though T4 really is a shadow of it's former self now and just a mixture of E4 and 4Music repeats with very little original content. Thanks to Sunday Brunch the Sunday edition has been shunted to E4, and even in doing that they haven't given famous hangover cure the Hollyoaks omnibus a decent slot - it's not on at 8.15am (even earlier than when on C4) - plus they've ditched the Saturday afternoon omnibus too.

Switch took too long to find it's identity really but it was getting there just before it was axed and probably would have been better in a 7-9pm slot one night on BBC3 to get the audience it was aimed at. Since the axing of Switch though do we know if CBBC have revised their policy of childhood ending at 12 years old?
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A former member
All I remember about Switch was

* Last series of Malcolm in the middle
* Kyle XY
* BBC Made programme

and all this on a Saturday Midday - 2pm, I agree it should have been on bbc3 or better still at 5-7pm on BBC two. even back in the good old day there had much better mix, Buffy, fresh prince, Simpson, robot wars, sliders ( England only) Thuderbirds. my wife and three kids

Its like the BBC has just given up on 12 - 22 age range. If there didn't there might actually kill two birds with one stone

* fill a gap in market and scheduleds Very Happy
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chris
All I remember about Switch was

* Last series of Malcolm in the middle
* Kyle XY
* BBC Made programme

and all this on a Saturday Midday - 2pm, I agree it should have been on bbc3 or better still at 5-7pm on BBC two. even back in the good old day there had much better mix, Buffy, fresh prince, Simpson, robot wars, sliders ( England only) Thuderbirds. my wife and three kids

Its like the BBC has just given up on 12 - 22 age range. If there didn't there might actually kill two birds with one stone

* fill a gap in market and scheduleds Very Happy


There was also a shift on CBBC. It used to cater also for kids up to the age of around 14/15 I think. They used to have some very good dramas for that age bracket, The Ghost Hunter being one that sticks in my mind. CBBC now I think only caters for up to 12 year olds
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A former member
The Ghost Hunter about 12 years old Confused
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Jonny
What was wrong with Switch?....



I think I'm right in saying CBBC has re-inherited the 12+ bracket. There was a bizarre, jarringly scheduled drama I flicked onto around Christmas last year ( Postcode ?) plonked at 4.30ish on CBBC One, which was clearly skewed towards a young BBC3-type audience.

I still think an unbranded BBC2/3 slot is the way to go for this demographic, focus on the content, not on the pandering.
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A former member
BBC trust would never do that, there to stupid,
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thegeek Founding member
Jonny posted:
BBC HD is due to remain after the launch of BBC Two HD.

Where's your source? All information we've heard until now says that BBC HD will close to make way for BBC Two HD.

No, there have been a few posts recently hinting at a u-turn and the retention of BBC HD post 2 HD (I think enabled by C5's decision to walk away from the fifth Freeview HD slot?).

And I believe thegeek is a BBC employee, so less shouty, k?


Hang on, let me see what the Social Media Guidelines say I'm supposed to say...
"views expressed by me are my own personal opinion, and do not necessarily represent Atos' vision".
From what I've heard, the plan is to use the fifth Freeview slot for an HD interactive slot during the Olympics, and then afterwards, there's certainly a desire to use it for BBC Two HD, alongside BBC HD. Nobody (technical) mentioned anything to me about a bidding process, but perhaps there are some regulatory hoops which need jumped through first.
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JAS84
The Ghost Hunter about 12 years old Confused
That was the point, it was aimed at an older demographic than the stuff they air now. Grange Hill and Byker Grove are obvious examples - in fact, it's the reason both were axed.
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A former member
JAS84 posted:
The Ghost Hunter about 12 years old Confused
That was the point, it was aimed at an older demographic than the stuff they air now. Grange Hill and Byker Grove are obvious examples - in fact, it's the reason both were axed.


Lets be honest Grange hilll and Byker grove were a pale shadow of there former-self, it was like BBC just given up.
Last edited by A former member on 18 May 2012 12:08pm
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Brekkie
Jonny posted:
BBC HD is due to remain after the launch of BBC Two HD.

Where's your source? All information we've heard until now says that BBC HD will close to make way for BBC Two HD.

No, there have been a few posts recently hinting at a u-turn and the retention of BBC HD post 2 HD (I think enabled by C5's decision to walk away from the fifth Freeview HD slot?).

And I believe thegeek is a BBC employee, so less shouty, k?


Hang on, let me see what the Social Media Guidelines say I'm supposed to say...
"views expressed by me are my own personal opinion, and do not necessarily represent Atos' vision".
From what I've heard, the plan is to use the fifth Freeview slot for an HD interactive slot during the Olympics, and then afterwards, there's certainly a desire to use it for BBC Two HD, alongside BBC HD. Nobody (technical) mentioned anything to me about a bidding process, but perhaps there are some regulatory hoops which need jumped through first.

It was confirmed in the DQF report this week that BBC HD will close and be replaced by BBC 2 HD.
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Neil Jones Founding member
JAS84 posted:
The Ghost Hunter about 12 years old Confused
That was the point, it was aimed at an older demographic than the stuff they air now. Grange Hill and Byker Grove are obvious examples - in fact, it's the reason both were axed.


Lets be honest Grange hilll and Byker grove were a pale shadow of there former-self, it was like BBC just given up.


Grange Hill was never the same after the Chicken Man theme was dropped, but I think it's main problem was it generated bucket-loads of complaints for the issues that it went after, and came too close to home for some people. Didn't Mary Whitehouse have a pop at Grange Hill at some point, I seem to remember?

As for Byker, wasn't it more the case that the production company behind it (Zenith) went under?
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Jon

Grange Hill was never the same after the Chicken Man theme was dropped

When I was young that theme on the classic Sunday episodes just seemed ridiculous, compared to the theme I'd been used to.

On the subject of BBC Switch, it sounded like a stupid name, if they'd just called it Switch and placed the BBC logo underneath it would have been a stronger brand.

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