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BBC confirms ditching Children's programmes from BBC1, BBC2 (May 2012)

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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member

With regards to the original topic, not really surprising that CBBC is removed from the main channels, they've had a "tacked on" feeling for a while now and if truth be told I'm surprised that 3-5:15pm CBBC One slot wasn't dropped ages ago.


I've never understood why they didn't simply simulcast with the CBBC Channel between 3-5.15pm. With so many budget cuts happening, surely this would have been an obvious answer? Besides, they are effectively halving their audience by playing out two different CBBC feeds for 2 hours a day...


I think it's been run down deliberately, the CBBC One/Two output as digital switchover progressed and is only hanging around as a legacy thing that's been there for the best part of the last 27 years. As previously stated it used to debut goodness only knows what prior to 2002, but all that's been moved to the CBBC Channel, in droves and what not in recent years to a point where CBBC One is effectively saying "I've been dying for the last x years, just kill me already".
BR
Brekkie
Yes, from a cost saving point of view simulcasting is surely a better option, even if they do move the afternoon slot to BBC2 and perhaps downsize it slightly. And from a PSB point of view if they don't want a direct simulcast stick signed versions of the content on the CBBC channel while it airs on BBC2.
JO
Jon
And from a PSB point of view if they don't want a direct simulcast stick signed versions of the content on the CBBC channel while it airs on BBC2.

The other way round would make more sense.

Surely now the BBC One slots will be filled up with repeats, which will feel like people are losing something. If they'd have just stuck simulcasts of CBBC on, it wouldn't have cost anything and no one would have felt like they were losing something.
CH
chris
And from a PSB point of view if they don't want a direct simulcast stick signed versions of the content on the CBBC channel while it airs on BBC2.

The other way round would make more sense.


Indeed. I think that would be a good think to do; providing a service for deaf children at a regular point during the day, whilst a signer would not be irritating for other children as they can just switch over. Even if this was just one/two hours a day, this would both be a good public service and something with which to fill BBC Two daytime.
:-(
A former member
Here a better Q: where are those nice 30mins of daily Gaelic kids programming going to end up? 8.30am - 9am.

Could we see the return to BBC one Scotland? AH Dot-a-man, now that was class! Razz
MD
mdtauk
Here a better Q: where are those nice 30mins of daily Gaelic kids programming going to end up? 8.30am - 9am.

Could we see the return to BBC one Scotland? AH Dot-a-man, now that was class! Razz


BBC Alba?
PC
Paul Clark
Did anybody really watch Blue Peter when they were young?

I have to say that on balance, no I didn't. Not as a routine anyway. I dipped in and out somewhere around the 1993-1998 period I think. The same goes for Newsround.

This pretty much describes my general viewing around that time, give an extra year either side maybe.

I never really made an 'appointment to view' anything in those slots, and I couldn't say now whether I ever saw a full run of a given series... So, caught 'a bit of everything now and then' but seeing as I was late on the Digital uptake (early 2000s) it was between BBC 1 / ITV.

In earlier years, maybe a bit of Rainbow, Playdays, You and Me, The Riddlers etc - Hart Beat and then Art Attack / Smart were worth watching, perhaps less well-known CBBC shows that I recall being of more interest than Blue Peter into the 90s IMO were those such as False or True and It'll Never Work. Was not really a fan of drama series...

Usually had the telly on children's stuff in late afternoons, but not always; I recall circa mid-1996 coming home from school and watching stuff like comedy taped off Channel 4 from previous nights - so it really depended what was on during the season!

The question is will it continue once it's lost its presence on the main channel? Out of sight, out of mind and all that...

Will be telling, yes... As has been said, should kids want to follow their favourites, then one would expect them to be able to track them down over on the CBBC Channel after the move if they search it out - but no idea if that will actually happen... One factor could be how well the changes are promoted.


One thing that hasn't been explained is how all the masses of airtime will be filled on BBC2 in the mornings, seven days a week.

BBC Learning Zone?

return of The Open University programmes?

School programming?

Haha, are we going round in circles here!?

Not too long ago that BBC 2 moved Schools programmes out of the traditional morning block, now doubtless encompassing part of the continued overnight Learning Zone output... And before that the LZ itself halved its hours - when, as it happens, they dropped the 'Open University' category as well.

I've no preference with respect to educational programme schedules myself, but the above suggestions would be like a U-turn completely reverting the effect of all the changes in recent years - perhaps not something they'd consider doing now!
CR
ColonelRed
Apologies if I missed it, but have they announced a timeframe for ditching them yet ?
NW
nwtv2003
Apologies if I missed it, but have they announced a timeframe for ditching them yet ?


Officially the BBC have said nothing. But they keep mentioning the final DSO date in October, I would say it makes sense to end them at the end of the year. I guess it's a little late now to do it after the Olympics, considering everything schedule wise has been confirmed for that.
TR
trivialmatters
Simulcasting CBBC does seem like a logical idea, especially if it meant new shows are going out on BBC One instead of just more factual repeats. Signing one channel and having the other clean is a great idea too.

I think the reason why they're not going to simulcast though is because the repeat fee for showing something on BBC One is staggering, whilst CBBC's is very low. So they'd be paying through the nose to dual-air Children's programmes. It makes financial sense to just have them on CBBC - and money is the reason for these cuts anyway.
GE
thegeek Founding member
This also means that the shows won't be able to be viewed in high definition, especially if BBC HD is to become BBC Two HD.


BBC HD is due to remain after the launch of BBC Two HD.
AC
aconnell
This also means that the shows won't be able to be viewed in high definition, especially if BBC HD is to become BBC Two HD.


BBC HD is due to remain after the launch of BBC Two HD.


Where's your source? All information we've heard until now says that BBC HD will close to make way for BBC Two HD.

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