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BBC confirms ditching Children's programmes from BBC1, BBC2 (May 2012)

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gottago
Did anybody really watch Blue Peter when they were young?


I rarely/never watched any Children's BBC output during my entire childhood (born 1980). I was firmly a Children's ITV kid (my strongest memories are of Knightmare, Fun House, and Finders Keepers). It was a bit like a sort of "class divide" or similar, to me. I thought of Children's BBC generally (and especially the likes of Blue Peter specifically) as being "dull and worthy", and only appealing to what the Junior School-aged me always called "Daddy's buying me a pony for Christmas"-type children, (and/or their aspirational middle-class parents).


I always felt this way about CBBC as well though I grew up with CITV during the mid 90s to early 00s. It was always a bit too upper class and always a bit too south east-centric for my liking. A lot of their programmes would focus on adults acting childishly which I found really patronising. I used to really hate it when ITV would have the Budget on and I wouldn't have a choice but to watch CBBC!

As for the BBC2 daytime situation, I don't see why there's an expectation for them to constantly broadcast programmes throughout the daytime. Sweden and Denmark's second PSB channels still don't broadcast 24 hours a day and have long periods during the morning and afternoon where they will just broadcast a programme menu and typical Ceefax music. If you look at the overnights on BBC2 you'll see that nothing rates above 0.3 million until the late afternoon with the Daily Politics rarely getting more than 0.2m and most children's content either getting 0.1m or registering as 0. Even if the Mail were to throw a strop about the license fee being even less value with a BBC2 daytime closedown, people would soon forget because no ones watches BBC2 daytime at the moment anyway!
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London Lite Founding member
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I always felt this way about CBBC as well though I grew up with CITV during the mid 90s to early 00s. It was always a bit too upper class and always a bit too south east-centric for my liking. A lot of their programmes would focus on adults acting childishly which I found really patronising. I used to really hate it when ITV would have the Budget on and I wouldn't have a choice but to watch CBBC!


You must have missed Byker Grove which was set and produced in Newcastle with working class children. Easily one of the best CBBC continuing drama's of all time.
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gottago

I always felt this way about CBBC as well though I grew up with CITV during the mid 90s to early 00s. It was always a bit too upper class and always a bit too south east-centric for my liking. A lot of their programmes would focus on adults acting childishly which I found really patronising. I used to really hate it when ITV would have the Budget on and I wouldn't have a choice but to watch CBBC!


You must have missed Byker Grove which was set and produced in Newcastle with working class children. Easily one of the best CBBC continuing drama's of all time.


Well yes, obviously they weren't all set in the south east. Rolling Eyes
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A former member
Does this mean an end to the 5.15 Junction? Could we see the BBC making more of an effort in this slot? Maybe a nice drama? even if its from OZ or even Shortland street? etc?
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NorthTonight
Does this mean an end to the 5.15 Junction? Could we see the BBC making more of an effort in this slot? Maybe a nice drama? even if its from OZ or even Shortland street? etc?


You're calling that an improvement - Shortland Street?
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A former member
Does this mean an end to the 5.15 Junction? Could we see the BBC making more of an effort in this slot? Maybe a nice drama? even if its from OZ or even Shortland street? etc?


You're calling that an improvement - Shortland Street?


Might get the viewers in?

1pm News
1.25 Local news
1.35: shortland Street
2pm: doctors
2.30 Classic Crime shows,
3.15: Home programme
4pm New BBC live show?
5.15 Pointless
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excel99
Does this mean an end to the 5.15 Junction?

I'd Guess not - BBC daytime likes their 45 minute shows
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amosc100
Does this mean an end to the 5.15 Junction? Could we see the BBC making more of an effort in this slot? Maybe a nice drama? even if its from OZ or even Shortland street? etc?


You're calling that an improvement - Shortland Street?


Might get the viewers in?

1pm News
1.25 Local news
1.35: shortland Street
2pm: doctors
2.30 Classic Crime shows,
3.15: Home programme
4pm New BBC live show?
5.15 Pointless




To be fair I would revamp the whole BBC1 daytime schedule....

09.15 Discussion Show (akin to the old Kilroy show)
10.00 Gameshows (currently shown at 17.15 on BBC2)
10.45 Homes Under The Hammer
11.45 Various 45 minute Daytime Shows
12.30 News
13.00 Regional News
13.15 Bargain Hunt
14.00 Various 45 minute Daytime Shows
14.45 Classic BBC Comedies (e.g. Only Fools and Horses)
15.15 US/Australian Drama's
16.00 Live at 4 (based on the old Pebble Mill programme)
16.45 Doctors
17.15 Pointless
CA
Cando

12.30 News
13.00 Regional News


They aren't going to tinker with what by far is the most popular daytime programme in Britain? The News at one gets 2.4-3.5m each day and has a whopping audience share of over 40%. Have we learnt anything from ITV's treatment of NAT?
Bargain Hunt before it is also a massive rater. Neither of those will be messed with.
Last edited by Cando on 25 September 2012 12:31am

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A former member
Do we have any details about the schedule and if any new programmes have been created?
NG
noggin Founding member

Sweden and Denmark's second PSB channels still don't broadcast 24 hours a day and have long periods during the morning and afternoon where they will just broadcast a programme menu and typical Ceefax music.

That's true - but SVT and DR also have massively smaller broadcasting budgets than the BBC (and AIUI DR2 is a relatively new channel, only launching in 1996, and is much more like BBC Four than BBC Two?)

So SVT and DR can claim poverty in not being able to fill their broadcast hours during the day, and historically haven't. The BBC can't claim poverty (sure they've had a significant income reduction, but are still funded well enough not to have to resort to closedown or music and text) and have historically been providing a daytime service on both channels... It's a bit apples and oranges.
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gottago

Sweden and Denmark's second PSB channels still don't broadcast 24 hours a day and have long periods during the morning and afternoon where they will just broadcast a programme menu and typical Ceefax music.

That's true - but SVT and DR also have massively smaller broadcasting budgets than the BBC (and AIUI DR2 is a relatively new channel, only launching in 1996, and is much more like BBC Four than BBC Two?)

So SVT and DR can claim poverty in not being able to fill their broadcast hours during the day, and historically haven't. The BBC can't claim poverty (sure they've had a significant income reduction, but are still funded well enough not to have to resort to closedown or music and text) and have historically been providing a daytime service on both channels... It's a bit apples and oranges.


I see your point, though having said that both DR and SVT have digital channels that do broadcast programming during the closedown periods on the second channel. The BBC may have the money but I still think that providing programmes in the late morning for an audience normally consisting of less than 100,000 is wasteful and I'd rather see the money spend on the daytime output of BBC1.

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