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commseng
Yes. the BBC never used the DTMF tones, it was all from tertiary tones on cart machines that obviously were not heard on air, or fired manually.
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Andrew Founding member

There was a chap in the 1990s who was more or less, ' BBC Head of RDS'. BBC Eng Info got so fed up with me ringing them with RDS observations and questions, and having to go off and check with him, that in the end they just gave me his direct landline phone number.

He'd always be happy to talk to me, and was glad to learn of any RDS related 'crimes' by the LR stations.


When I worked at Radio Leeds in the late 90s, there was one listener who got so fed up with the RDS traffic flag being left on that he complained to the Director General. This resulted in a telling-off for the station from on high, and presenters being instructed on no account to leave the TA flag on.


Ha. I promise you, it wasn't me!

Many stations would start the Travel bed, the RDS signal would have gone off, and then they’d spend two minutes promoting the schedule, before handing over to the travel presenter.
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Inspector Sands
A couple of years ago one BBC local station whose patch I regularly drive through had a promo for their rugby coverage that would trigger the RDS travel flag. Happened for weeks, it wasn't just a one-off
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Markymark
Have a look at this IBA video about RDS, it's gloriously 'of its time'.
The fun starts at 01:25

https://youtu.be/JzUcpIwuzpw
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deejay
Those photos of Woodhouse Lane are absolutely fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
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Spencer
A couple of years ago one BBC local station whose patch I regularly drive through had a promo for their rugby coverage that would trigger the RDS travel flag. Happened for weeks, it wasn't just a one-off


Radio Leeds had a problem at one point where a particular high frequency sound in the travel jingle matched the tone to turn the RDS off, meaning it would switch on and then off straight away. This was solved by re-saving it at 32kHz which meant the jingle sounded rather flat, but it filtered out the offending note. I suspect something similar was going on in the case you mention.
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Markymark
A couple of years ago one BBC local station whose patch I regularly drive through had a promo for their rugby coverage that would trigger the RDS travel flag. Happened for weeks, it wasn't just a one-off


Radio Leeds had a problem at one point where a particular high frequency sound in the travel jingle matched the tone to turn the RDS off, meaning it would switch on and then off straight away. This was solved by re-saving it at 32kHz which meant the jingle sounded rather flat, but it filtered out the offending note. I suspect something similar was going on in the case you mention.


Similar problem at Radio Solent. Presenter Nick Girdler could cause the 19 kHz stereo pilot tone at the transmitter quench by making a certain squeaky noise in the early days of stereo broadcasting (1990 ! for them)
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Steve in Pudsey
Only on TV Forum could a thread about coats of arms drift naturally into RDS. I love it
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Inspector Sands
Hopefully the new place won't have a radio section where we start talking about RDS and then drift onto Love Island or something....
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Inspector Sands
Here's a take on the BBC Coat of Arms at one BBC building. Nice muriel, I wonder what the other ones are

https://flic.kr/p/hzz1W
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Joe
Looks like they are labelled if you're on desktop. Including Portugal and Worcestershire. (By the way, it's mural!)
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Inspector Sands
Joe posted:
Looks like they are labelled if you're on desktop. Including Portugal and Worcestershire. (By the way, it's mural!)

Aha, I'm on my phone!

And no, in honour of Hilda Ogden they're always muriels Laughing

Even ITV agree:
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