MU
Maybe they just thought that having a tree dropping pine needles all over the ice wouldn't look too good, or be easy to clean up afterwards A fake tree could be good though.
Jugalug posted:
Agreed, a real Christmas tree would have improved this loads! And more tinsel and that crap would have been nice.
Maybe they just thought that having a tree dropping pine needles all over the ice wouldn't look too good, or be easy to clean up afterwards A fake tree could be good though.
PC
You might prefer to view BBC2 Northern Ireland if you can receive it - I think they realised the box was spoiling the centered '2' a bit, so their versions don't use it - and I reckon they look all the better for it.
NBC25 posted:
The BBC two Christmas idents look much better with out the box.
And if anything, the box ruins the ident.
And if anything, the box ruins the ident.
You might prefer to view BBC2 Northern Ireland if you can receive it - I think they realised the box was spoiling the centered '2' a bit, so their versions don't use it - and I reckon they look all the better for it.
JO
Well, are they a "natural" freeze (best example I can think of is Channel 4's original ident) where everything's come to rest before it freezes, or is it something like Seascape where it'll never come to rest and so it's horridly obvious that it's not right?
It's a nasty point to freeze the symbol - more comparable to Seascape, but worse than that, even (!): it ends at the exact point a large soft-focussed snowflake passes down the right-hand side of the screen, freezing just as it hovers over the base of the '2'; so clearly not the most natural place to leave it!
I recorded the 4.30am junction and was astonished at how bad the 30" freeze is. As you say Paul, it leaves a snowflake hovering over the base of the 2, making it a completely unnatural conclusion. Surely it wouldn't have taken much more effort to add just another 10 seconds before a freeze. Announcements regularly overrun the 30" allowed (15" if you exclude the opening action) so a 40" version is most definitely required.
I have to admit I was unsure about Two's festive adornments at first but they have really started to grow on me. The very well designed stings, trails, menus and *shock* ECPs make an excellent Christmas package.
They make BBC One's effort look dull in comparison.
Paul Clark posted:
Reboot posted:
Paul Clark posted:
Hmm - looks like BBC2's symbols this year well exceed 30 seconds of audio, but unfortunately and weirdly the animation itself does not - it ends at dead-on 30" and remains frozen on the last frame - all while the music continues on, like it was intended for a longer ident...
Well, are they a "natural" freeze (best example I can think of is Channel 4's original ident) where everything's come to rest before it freezes, or is it something like Seascape where it'll never come to rest and so it's horridly obvious that it's not right?
It's a nasty point to freeze the symbol - more comparable to Seascape, but worse than that, even (!): it ends at the exact point a large soft-focussed snowflake passes down the right-hand side of the screen, freezing just as it hovers over the base of the '2'; so clearly not the most natural place to leave it!
I recorded the 4.30am junction and was astonished at how bad the 30" freeze is. As you say Paul, it leaves a snowflake hovering over the base of the 2, making it a completely unnatural conclusion. Surely it wouldn't have taken much more effort to add just another 10 seconds before a freeze. Announcements regularly overrun the 30" allowed (15" if you exclude the opening action) so a 40" version is most definitely required.
I have to admit I was unsure about Two's festive adornments at first but they have really started to grow on me. The very well designed stings, trails, menus and *shock* ECPs make an excellent Christmas package.
They make BBC One's effort look dull in comparison.
DE
You might prefer to view BBC2 Northern Ireland if you can receive it - I think they realised the box was spoiling the centered '2' a bit, so their versions don't use it - and I reckon they look all the better for it.
I'm afraid to say that's no longer the case. The box is back!!!
Paul Clark posted:
NBC25 posted:
The BBC two Christmas idents look much better with out the box.
And if anything, the box ruins the ident.
And if anything, the box ruins the ident.
You might prefer to view BBC2 Northern Ireland if you can receive it - I think they realised the box was spoiling the centered '2' a bit, so their versions don't use it - and I reckon they look all the better for it.
I'm afraid to say that's no longer the case. The box is back!!!
NM
You might prefer to view BBC2 Northern Ireland if you can receive it - I think they realised the box was spoiling the centered '2' a bit, so their versions don't use it - and I reckon they look all the better for it.
I'm afraid to say that's no longer the case. The box is back!!!
(Dun dun dun)
denton posted:
Paul Clark posted:
NBC25 posted:
The BBC two Christmas idents look much better with out the box.
And if anything, the box ruins the ident.
And if anything, the box ruins the ident.
You might prefer to view BBC2 Northern Ireland if you can receive it - I think they realised the box was spoiling the centered '2' a bit, so their versions don't use it - and I reckon they look all the better for it.
I'm afraid to say that's no longer the case. The box is back!!!
(Dun dun dun)
JO
A-ha! It supplies us with the official names - always favourable to simply naming them 'Xmas Ident 1 / 2' or similar.
I shall listen to these snippets (looks like the first half of both?) later, regardless of YouTube's rough quality - not quite a match for the broadcast picture yet, eh?
According to their website, they also designed the Thursdays Are Funny package. Hence the Christmas idents similarity.
Paul Clark posted:
Jonny posted:
The producers of the BBC2 idents appear to have a Youtube account. More information as well as Clean (and boxless) versions of the BBC2 idents and stings can be found here
A-ha! It supplies us with the official names - always favourable to simply naming them 'Xmas Ident 1 / 2' or similar.
I shall listen to these snippets (looks like the first half of both?) later, regardless of YouTube's rough quality - not quite a match for the broadcast picture yet, eh?
According to their website, they also designed the Thursdays Are Funny package. Hence the Christmas idents similarity.
TV
Methinks rank has been pulled...what a shame.
Anyhow, the Penguins are already a hit, according to Teletext p137:
Your TV Views: Let's hear it for those birds
The penguins at the start of programmes are brilliant. Well done BBC!
Barbara Greenford
denton posted:
I'm afraid to say that's no longer the case. The box is back!!!
Methinks rank has been pulled...what a shame.
Anyhow, the Penguins are already a hit, according to Teletext p137:
Your TV Views: Let's hear it for those birds
The penguins at the start of programmes are brilliant. Well done BBC!
Barbara Greenford
IS
Methinks rank has been pulled...what a shame.
Anyhow, the Penguins are already a hit, according to Teletext p137:
More likely that they were sent to Belfast too late to add the rectangle (It's not a box!) onto the idents so they went to air without them
tvarksouthwest posted:
denton posted:
I'm afraid to say that's no longer the case. The box is back!!!
Methinks rank has been pulled...what a shame.
Anyhow, the Penguins are already a hit, according to Teletext p137:
More likely that they were sent to Belfast too late to add the rectangle (It's not a box!) onto the idents so they went to air without them