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(August 2008)

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noggin Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
chickyb posted:
Inverness can actually mix the entire show and play in live and pre-recorded pieces for the whole programme, this is the back up plan and has been been done during the dry runs when there has been massive circuit failures. So each day, all the pre recorded pieces are are dual stored in case one site fails, the other can do the play ins. So it does beg the question why Studio C is involved in the first place - I know the reason is more than likely political and certainly not for a technical reason or cost saving.


Presumably there would be problems if Studio C was required for an evening sport programme? Would they make arrangements for one of the other PQ studios to handle the sport or let Inverness run the entire show?


Suspect either are possible - and I suspect it would be easier to shift sport to another gallery (whilst still using Studio C floor?) as Sport is usually less automated ?
NG
noggin Founding member
Markymark posted:
noggin posted:
Markymark posted:
Just watching the news programme on BBC Alba at the moment. One thought, what language is used on the studio talkback, English or Gaelic ?

(Similar question applies to S4C)


As BBC Alba's main gallery (and director) is, I believe, in Glasgow I'd expect the show to be directed mainly (entirely) in English - as the studio crew in Glasgow may well not speak Gaelic. AIUI that is how Newyddion operates for S4C - as they share a studio and crew with Wales Today. This is also how the original BBC Arabic operation ran at TV Centre - and is how I believe the current BBC Arabic, and proposed BBC Farsi, services also operate?



Thanks Noggin, very interesting. Must be odd for the presenters to be counted in and directed in English, at the same time as speaking in another language ?

Or perhaps not ? (I can only speak one language, so I can't imagine)

But what about the English speaking production staff catching the correct out cues etc ?


Much easier with a roman-script language - where you can quickly learn the rudiments of pronounciation without speaking the language.

Quite a few of the original BBC Arabic crew learnt to read Arabic script phonetically to make their lives easier, though Autocue was very useful for scripted content (you embed (OOV) (GFX) in English in the script and as that () hit the autocue cursor you fired the required stuff)
GE
thegeek Founding member
noggin posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Presumably there would be problems if Studio C was required for an evening sport programme? Would they make arrangements for one of the other PQ studios to handle the sport or let Inverness run the entire show?


Suspect either are possible - and I suspect it would be easier to shift sport to another gallery (whilst still using Studio C floor?) as Sport is usually less automated ?
I think they used Studio A's gallery for last night's football, while C's gallery mixed An La.
NT
NorthTonight
I was hoping BBC Alba might mean the end to Thursday night Gaelic on BBC Two, but alas no! If only they'd leave the " stripped " 6 to 7pm slot.
:-(
A former member
NorthTonight posted:
I was hoping BBC Alba might mean the end to Thursday night Gaelic on BBC Two, but alas no! If only they'd leave the " stripped " 6 to 7pm slot.


It as always the plan that the Gaelic on bbc two will be KEPT for at least a year.

on stv. there have to keep it until digital switchover and then there can drop it and move all programmers to new channel.

that 6-7.30 slot is not as bad as in the good old days, Moving robot wars to Fridays, killing of 2 episode of the Simpson, ( many epsoide were also never show up here, or it was only shown once)
Buffy got moved to 6.45 aswell killing of something else.

many other shows got dumped like Sliders and repeats of Quantum leap never got shown in scotland I believe only a few sliders where show up here.

Wednesday 6.45 slot also got re used.
NT
NorthTonight
623058 posted:
NorthTonight posted:
I was hoping BBC Alba might mean the end to Thursday night Gaelic on BBC Two, but alas no! If only they'd leave the " stripped " 6 to 7pm slot.


It as always the plan that the Gaelic on bbc two will be KEPT for at least a year.

on stv. there have to keep it until digital switchover and then there can drop it and move all programmers to new channel.

that 6-7.30 slot is not as bad as in the good old days, Moving robot wars to Fridays, killing of 2 episode of the Simpson, ( many epsoide were also never show up here, or it was only shown once)
Buffy got moved to 6.45 aswell killing of something else.

many other shows got dumped like Sliders and repeats of Quantum leap never got shown in scotland I believe only a few sliders where show up here.

Wednesday 6.45 slot also got re used.


The other solution would be to take out whatever is on at 6pm and just show Gaelic progs from 6 to 630pm every night...
:-(
A former member
There can;t in case some of the people have not gone digital yet!
GZ
GenZee
will fail unless it gets onto freeview.
NG
noggin Founding member
623058 posted:
There can;t in case some of the people have not gone digital yet!


Worse than that - BBC Alba is satellite only - so Freeview viewers don't get it either. (Not sure about cable)

As such the BBC can't ditch Gaelic on BBC Two Scotland just yet.
NG
noggin Founding member
thegeek posted:
noggin posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Presumably there would be problems if Studio C was required for an evening sport programme? Would they make arrangements for one of the other PQ studios to handle the sport or let Inverness run the entire show?


Suspect either are possible - and I suspect it would be easier to shift sport to another gallery (whilst still using Studio C floor?) as Sport is usually less automated ?
I think they used Studio A's gallery for last night's football, while C's gallery mixed An La.


Doesn't that mean ALL the PQ galleries were on-air at once then?!

(PQ has three studios, but only two galleries AIUI - with an OB truck parked outside providing extra production facilities if all three studios are required at once?)

Let's hope they don't have any production studio bookings for network or independent shows when An La and Sport are on-air then!
GE
thegeek Founding member
noggin posted:
Doesn't that mean ALL the PQ galleries were on-air at once then?!

(PQ has three studios, but only two galleries AIUI - with an OB truck parked outside providing extra production facilities if all three studios are required at once?)

Let's hope they don't have any production studio bookings for network or independent shows when An La and Sport are on-air then!
There's a small gallery which can operate the small newsroom studio, called Bulletin Control Room. I'm not sure, but I think it can also be used for STC.

And if someone wants to use B's floor? STV have their own trucks! Smile
NG
noggin Founding member
thegeek posted:
noggin posted:
Doesn't that mean ALL the PQ galleries were on-air at once then?!

(PQ has three studios, but only two galleries AIUI - with an OB truck parked outside providing extra production facilities if all three studios are required at once?)

Let's hope they don't have any production studio bookings for network or independent shows when An La and Sport are on-air then!
There's a small gallery which can operate the small newsroom studio, called Bulletin Control Room. I'm not sure, but I think it can also be used for STC.

And if someone wants to use B's floor? STV have their own trucks! Smile


Are STV HD? (That's one of PQ's selling points after all...)

Presumably the Bulletin control room is for short Breakfast, Afternoon and Late bulletins - with the 1330, 1830 and 2000 coming from the larger gallery (though I guess if the bulletin control room has a decent mixer it could do the 2000?)

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