BBC 2W

Amazed none of you have noticed this yet but anyway...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/2w/

From 8.30pm to 10pm or 10.30pm every weekday evening, to viewers on DSAT, DTT and cable - special news bulletin at 9pm, documentaries/factual programmes, entertainment and drama.

Its a bit unclear how the channel numbers are going to change about, as they mention that you'll be able to get BBC Two network on 964 on DSAT, though where I am that's BBC Two Scotland. However I assume it will be being broadcast on one of the three.

To further complicate things all the usual BBC Two opt-outs will continue to be broadcast on analogue (though as far as I can see, there will no longer be a 'normal' BBC 2 Wales digital channel, so you'll have to press TV and 2 if you live in Wales, and you won't be able to see Dragon's Eye or the rugby programmes if you live anywhere else in the country).

At the moment I hardly ever watch the regional versions of BBC2 though I might well tune in for the news programme a few times.

William

So I wasn't having hearing problems when I heard a reporter say BBC 2W, the other day. Although I did actually think it was TW, not 2W. People in the chatroom at the time will recall my confusion. I was a lost child for a few short moments.

But that was on Wales Today, so why they're saying it on there is beyond me.

2W, LDN... is this a sign of the times and I'm horribly outdated in thinking that all of these contractions A) make no sense and B) sound and look stupid? Obviously the BBC's Book of Programme Names has been rewritten... by a 14 year old, mobile phone loving, child.

Roll on BBC 2S!

Agreed!

I tried scotland/2s/

but there doesnt appear to be anything

Yep, there will be a press launch for it on Monday. Wonder if I can sneak in if I say I'm from TV Forum? Umm, maybe not.

Sounds like an excuse for new idents if I ever heard one (or will they just be adapted to say 2W at the bottom?)

Regular news at 9pm means another variation on the BBC News theme? An adapted Wales Today tune?

Shame the website looks like it's come from the BBC Choice stable though.

EDIT: Just read http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/2w/facts.shtml - what on earth are they playing at?? 'The service will have its own DOG (digital on-screen graphic) shown on air on 2W from 6pm each weekday evening.'

So it is turning into BBC Choice! Why oh why - and I guess I won't be the obvious short and snappy |B|B|C| 2W either. Plus they'll be ridiculous programme DOGs as well....like BBC Choice.

Cheers, Asa

I'm sure you'll get in!

Programme DOGs are so irritating, and they serve no purpose. If the viewer is paying enough attention to notice the DOG they are obviously paying enough attention to work out what they're watching. DOGs like the Liquid News DOG are even worse. It's purely there to add some sort of deocration, and just looks stupid. Who was that North East bird they had presenting the other day? She was crap.

It's all part of the Corporation's attempt to move forward. We'll see BBC NW, BBC SE; etc. I expect we'll see them in the next few years. News 24 will re-branded as N24, jazzed up with younger presenters and substitute real news for entertainment.

Can't wait!

I agree DOGs are ridiculous. Can't the viewer see what channel they are on by pressing Select?!

Or maybe there should be a menu system to disable DOGs..

Also those active icons and quiz icons are annoying.. Especially when the guys at Sky forget to turn them off when a movie starts and you begin recording with a DOG there (I know you can press BACKUP to remove it, but about 15 minutes later, it returns!)

I hear that Aled Jones is to oblige, singing 'Walking in the Air'.......

Yeah they've been piloting 2W for a while.
AFAIK it'll be a different style of pres - with more friendly links from the con announcers ... as if they've been watching the shows with you.
Oh and I believe new idents ...

Very nice. I always prefer friendlier continuity where appropriate. Like last week before The Weakest Link 'oooohh, I love this show' and the such like. And new idents as in new idents or as in new variations on the '2'?

Cheers, Asa

Does this mean that we're going to have another news theme?