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JA
jay Founding member
Seriously, 24 HD channels are a massive offering. A never-thought idea outside UK.


I had 35 odd in my room in Athens.


From the same broadcaster?
DO
dosxuk
jay posted:
Seriously, 24 HD channels are a massive offering. A never-thought idea outside UK.


I had 35 odd in my room in Athens.


From the same broadcaster?


Yup, AOB. Just checked, and it was 34 sport channels, plus 7 "beauty camera" channels, and a handful of international news channels (inc BBC World).
NG
noggin Founding member
Though these were SD in Athens weren't they - and were they broadcast across the whole of Greece or ring main to hotels? ISTR that HD coverage in Athens was a bit sporadic - and additional to the host feed which was SD. Beijing was the first all-HD summer games.
NG
noggin Founding member
The BBC have confirmed the 5th slot on Freeview HD (currently not assigned to a broadcaster since 5 dropped out) will be used to add a third BBC HD service for the Olympics, simulcasting the 301 Interactive stream.

So there will be BBC One HD, BBC HD (carrying BBC Three Olympic content - and BBC Three will be starting earlier in the day) and 301 HD for the duration.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ariel/17762074
DO
dosxuk
Though these were SD in Athens weren't they - and were they broadcast across the whole of Greece or ring main to hotels? ISTR that HD coverage in Athens was a bit sporadic - and additional to the host feed which was SD. Beijing was the first all-HD summer games.


All the host broadcast feeds were SD, although there were a few bits produced in HD, with those feeds available on the sites to interested parties. Where there was HD feeds available IIRC they had to be uplinked at the venues, as the contribution network was entirely SD-SDI based.

AOB had a wired feed which was distributed to numerous places, including villages (athlete / media) and various hotels and then transmitted over the standard RF wiring, although there were some feeds being broadcast terrestrially (mostly for monitoring at venues, especially things like rowing / sailing).

My main point was the feeds have been available for years, distributing them widely is not a new idea, the problems have always been getting that number of feeds back to broadcasters' home bases. Obviously this year, getting that number of feeds from the IBC to TVC / Salford is not going to pose much of a challenge. Getting them back from Brazil may well be! IIRC, even the EBU only switched about 12 of the OBS feeds back from Beijing in 2008 rather than try to get them all back.
UK
UKnews
I believe its 44 channels this time, think it only 4 beauty shots, if I heard correctly.
WO
Worzel
So will BBC Parliament change its Freeview EPG name/ID for the olympics? Or will we get on BBC One from the presenter 'This event will be on BBC Parliament at 7pm'?.
NG
noggin Founding member

My main point was the feeds have been available for years, distributing them widely is not a new idea, the problems have always been getting that number of feeds back to broadcasters' home bases. Obviously this year, getting that number of feeds from the IBC to TVC / Salford is not going to pose much of a challenge. Getting them back from Brazil may well be! IIRC, even the EBU only switched about 12 of the OBS feeds back from Beijing in 2008 rather than try to get them all back.


I think distributing them has never been a major issue in broadcast terms - after all there were loads of them web streamed in 2008.

I think what is pretty much a first - anywhere - is making so many of them available nationwide broadcasts to an entire nation, live and in HD.

Contrast this with the US - where viewers in the West Coast didn't see a single Olympic event live on NBC (even Phelps winning his final gold medal...) and the number of broadcast TV outlets was pretty limited (they use their sister channels like Bravo, MSNBC etc. ISTR rather than starting new channels)
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member

My main point was the feeds have been available for years, distributing them widely is not a new idea, the problems have always been getting that number of feeds back to broadcasters' home bases. Obviously this year, getting that number of feeds from the IBC to TVC / Salford is not going to pose much of a challenge. Getting them back from Brazil may well be! IIRC, even the EBU only switched about 12 of the OBS feeds back from Beijing in 2008 rather than try to get them all back.


I think distributing them has never been a major issue in broadcast terms - after all there were loads of them web streamed in 2008.

I think what is pretty much a first - anywhere - is making so many of them available nationwide broadcasts to an entire nation, live and in HD.

Contrast this with the US - where viewers in the West Coast didn't see a single Olympic event live on NBC (even Phelps winning his final gold medal...) and the number of broadcast TV outlets was pretty limited (they use their sister channels like Bravo, MSNBC etc. ISTR rather than starting new channels)


Indeed - quite a big deal is currently being made in the US about the fact that NBC will be streaming everything live online this time around, something we already take for granted with the BBC.
BR
Brekkie
So will BBC Parliament change its Freeview EPG name/ID for the olympics? Or will we get on BBC One from the presenter 'This event will be on BBC Parliament at 7pm'?.

From what I've read they'll launch the stream on 302 this time. Back in 2008 they used 81 (or was it 85 then?) but only accessed via the red button, unlike 301/302.
NG
noggin Founding member

My main point was the feeds have been available for years, distributing them widely is not a new idea, the problems have always been getting that number of feeds back to broadcasters' home bases. Obviously this year, getting that number of feeds from the IBC to TVC / Salford is not going to pose much of a challenge. Getting them back from Brazil may well be! IIRC, even the EBU only switched about 12 of the OBS feeds back from Beijing in 2008 rather than try to get them all back.


I think distributing them has never been a major issue in broadcast terms - after all there were loads of them web streamed in 2008.

I think what is pretty much a first - anywhere - is making so many of them available nationwide broadcasts to an entire nation, live and in HD.

Contrast this with the US - where viewers in the West Coast didn't see a single Olympic event live on NBC (even Phelps winning his final gold medal...) and the number of broadcast TV outlets was pretty limited (they use their sister channels like Bravo, MSNBC etc. ISTR rather than starting new channels)


Indeed - quite a big deal is currently being made in the US about the fact that NBC will be streaming everything live online this time around, something we already take for granted with the BBC.


Wonder if they will broadcast anything live on normal TV on the West Coast this time, or whether their 'prime time' advertiser deals will win again... (They delayed everything last time so that the West Coast saw popular events in prime time, where they could make most advertising revenue, rather than showing them live earlier in the day, where they would have lower advertising rates, because potentially there were fewer viewers)
BR
Brekkie
They wouldn't broadcast live on the West Coast for the Vancouver games in the same time zone, so doubt they will for London where everything for primetime will be pre-recorded anyway.

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